Tonight we’ve got Alan, with his Khorne Daemonkin vs. Reecius and his Eldar! Will the $250 finally be taken out of his hands?? Lists in post!
| Deldar | 1850pts | ||
| Unit | Description | Size | Cost |
| HQ | |||
| Maugan Ra | – | 1 | 195 |
| Farseer | Gem, Bike | 1 | 130 |
| Succubus | WWP, Glaive | 1 | 130 |
| Troops | |||
| Jetbikes | S.Laser x 5 | 5 | 135 |
| Jetbikes | S.Laser x 5 | 5 | 135 |
| Warriors | – | 5 | 40 |
| Venom | Splinter Cannon | 1 | 65 |
| Elites | |||
| Wraithguard | Scythes | 5 | 210 |
| Fast Attack | |||
| Crimson Hunter | Exarch | 1 | 160 |
| Raider | – | 1 | 55 |
| Avenger Shrine | |||
| Dire Avengers | Exarch | 10 | 140 |
| Dire Avengers | – | 10 | 130 |
| Dire Avengers | – | 10 | 130 |
| Lord of War | |||
| Avatar | – | 1 | 195 |
| Totals | – | 57 | 1850 |
(Alan has two allied Detachments, and we said it was cool in advance)
Lord: Jugger, Axe of Ruin, 4++
Cultists x 8
Cultists x 8
Heldrake
Heldrake
Khorne Hounds x 11
Soulgrinder: Flamer
Soulgrinder: Flamer
Soulgrinder: Blast
Crimson Slaughter Allies
Kharn
Cultists x 10
Chaos Daemon Allies
Great Unclean One: Greater Gift x 2, Lesser Gift, Mastery 3
Nurglings x 3
Are you just trying to lose the 250? It seems like you’re taking some really suboptimal stuff here like the Avatar…
I wanted to make it a challenge 🙂
Hey, it’s your money, I just think you would’ve proved your point better by continuing to play the best Eldar list you could. Just my thoughts.
I wouldn’t exactly call that an optimal KDK army either.
Fair point.
Agreed 100% but good job to the Guy!
fun!
REMATCH!!!
Looks like a fun and diverse Eldar list. Great to see that new codex a ton of options.
That was an extraordinarily soft Eldar list.
Well, it was an incredibly fun game of 40
k!
Fair enough. Glad you guys had fun!
BTW – loving this twitch series. Keeping playing eldar against stuff using different units. Interesting to watch!
Hey Reece! Really enjoying these battle reports. The quality is great and they’re always fun to watch – thank you! I do want to say though, while I definitely like seeing varied Eldar lists, I’d honestly be more interested to see you playing highly competitive lists.
I don’t think anyone honestly believes that 100% of the Eldar units are over the top. When you bring a bunch of Eldar’s low-mid tier units, it’s not really demonstrating anything about their power. It’s just you playing a decently powerful army and you happen to pay out $250 if you lose. I’m interested to see, from a truly competitive standpoint, if any army can give the Eldar a run for their money.
Obviously, it’s a game and fun comes first. But these softer lists should be regular battle reports. Leave the “Eldar Challenge Matches” to the heavy hitters. I’d love to see you take on Flyrant spam or Ad Lance. Just my thoughts; I’ll keep watching either way!
I think a lot of it has to do with Reece playing with the models he actually has in the studio. No one wants to see a battle report with half assembled plastic.
Thing is, there are many people on the internet claiming that ALL stuff in the new codex is super good. If nothing else, this report hints that basic aspects are still crap, despite formation bonuses and stuff. And hence, unless you capitalise heavily on the most deadly units you’ll still end up with a list that is not really competitive. Just the same thing as with any other codex, really.
@Reecius
Could you post an article on the camera setups and what hardware/ software your driving it with. Want to start doing something like that down here in the big easy and I’m trying to spec out some hardware. Biggest difference is I want to mount the camera over the center of the table looking straight down.
Thanks
mathhammer.
Ancient Chinese Secret
great game.
two medium power lists but reecius still took some of the nasty stuff though d-scythes + bikes.
Hi Reece,
I am really enjoying your twitch batreps, I think you’re on your way becoming number one on the internet!
But I have to say the one model deployment shenanigans you pulled of against both daemon players is really not awesome. Of course you can “choose” to lose the initiative! It’s a very basic rule, I can’t believe none of you guys in the studio knew. You can look it up in the BRB under deployment and Standard deployment method: ” The player who DEPLOYED FIRST can choose to take either first OR second turn”. (Then you still can roll for seizing initiative).
So unless you have a different rule in ITC regarding deployment this could have made a huge difference for the daemon player going second, e.g. the drakes.
Best regards, a fan
ITC uses 6ed style who goes first rules. This is also what the rule book recommends when discussing best way to do your own missions. Why they then do it differently with the whole choose thing in standard deployment is odd.
I really like the idea of as a codex comes out you guys play a ton of battle reports with it like your doing with Eldar against different armies using different builds.
Yeah, let’s start seeing Skittari!
this should have been the outro song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1xk07o4g
Good stuff, entertaining game!
Was sorry to see you lose Reece – simply because this challenge has been so much fun to watch! Really cool concept – hope you guys do it again.
People really consider the Avatar to be bad… ?
You must be new to the internet.
I’m not sure if folks thought the avatar was “bad”. But when you compare how much of a bullet magnet the WK has been in this series or how much of a force the Council has been/could be, replacing them with the avatar might not be considered as good.
Is there anything that’s actually bad in the new codex? I think it’s just bad in context with the insanity of the rest of the book
The Avatar is a slow-moving melee-oriented MC that can be killed in 1 shooting phase by pretty much anything, starting with massed lasgun fire. By itself it has always been bad. The only thing that made Avatar relatively ‘good’ was the combination of 4++ and guaranteed Fortune on a Farseer, that Eldar had in 4th and 5th edition. Being constantly Fortuned, the Avatar could advance and either still live for few turns to actually do something OR die but soak up enough enemy firepower in the process to still make his presence worthwhile.
When 6th edition came, Eldar lost guaranteed Fortune, and with 6th edition codex Avatar got nerfed to 5++ AND went up in points from 155 to 195. As a result, in the majority of games it has become ridiculously easy to kill for its cost. Basically, it’s a waste of points now.
I say for next should be Skitarii vs Eldar 😀
I have really enjoyed watching theses games.
Correct me if I am wrong but the new Avatar gets 7 strength 9 armoubane attacks on the charge, it seems like a waste to not try and get it into combat, of course many things could have been done differently.
The discussion of potentially over powered units aside, there seems to be a lot of interesting/fun options for Eldar. For another hard-mode challenge, banshee/scorpion aspect host with the Avatar granting furious charge and rage ? 🙂
A link to the replay, please.
Hey Reece nice list
I like the dire avenger shrine too but i didnt think you could run it by itself. The way I read it was that it was an auxillary choice and that you had to bring one of the 3 core choices to unlock the 0-12 auxillary ones. This seems to bring some balance as it forces you to spend a decent amount of points before you start getting the goodies. Let me know if you disagree because I would happily take the” auxillary” choices by themsleves without the “core” tax in order to run my all aspect foot slogging army like back in second edition only better 🙂
Ouuuuch Reece’s dice really made sweet love to him from behind without asking for consent. Although, once again, he failed some stuff. On average 3 Dlamer hits wont wreck a soulgrinder so I dont know why he thought they would. Must have been the beer. If he would have positioned them differently and would have gotten 4 Dlamers there and then probably wrecked both of them.
Oh and that Oxford Comma thing… I was laughing my ass off at that. Great game to watch.
Oxford comma only refers to the last item in a list, not the middle of the sentence. England’s sentence-joining rules are the same as ours. Haven’t read the exact wording on Daemonkin, but I think the intrepid challenger was right there.
Showing my ignorance again: Don’t templates always ignore cover?
Any way to watch the video later?
http://www.twitch.tv/frontlinegaming_tv/v/4693527
Cool, thanks.