Imperial Guard / Astra Militarum test run! The new book is really powerful, like, really powerful. Here, we break the cherry vs. a Nurgle Chaos army! As always, check out the Tactics Corner for more great bat reps!
Warhammer 40K Video #224 Bat Rep Astra Militarum vs Nurgle Chaos
Im very very happy with new guard
Me, too! I think there are a few missed opportunities, but for the most part it is a big win!
What’s the best things they got now ?
So many good choices! Orders are amazing, their Psykers and Priests are awesome, cheap Leman Russes, Yarrick is a total stud, the Wyvern is boss mode. They have a lot to be happy about, honestly.
For the cost of an aegis line (no gun) you get 1ML with divination.
For half that you get fearless/hatred.
Wyvern is nasty.
AA got nerfed, but might be okay if you use divination to help it get through jink.
There are so much possibilities in that Codex to get rerolls to hit and to ignore cover – that makes the new IG really powerful.
I especially like the new Pask, getting “rending” for a Leman Russ Punisher.
Yeah, Pask is a beast, but having to take him in a squadron holds me back from taking him seriously as a competitive choice.
Well, I just consider those additional tanks as additional hull points for Pask. And Eradicators and Vanquishers have become soooo cheap in the new Codex. You won’t do anything wrong buying an Eradicator for the same points than a Vindicator.
Expensive Hull Points =)
I am not saying it is bad at all, but that I would rather spend points in other areas for a lean, mean list. One attack can kill both tanks too, which is a problem.
Yep, that’s right. But I love the sound of Punisher Gatlings in the morning. Sounds like – dead Xenos. 😉
How does Re-rolls to hit affect the Executioner? Do you get to re-roll the gets hot?
Also, Im so tempted to start IG now.
Yes you reroll to get hot.
Really? I thought that was just with Twin linked. I will be sure to remember that for my Tau
Anything that gets hot that can re-roll to hit at all (even if just re-rolling 1’s) may re-roll the get’s hot dice.
it’s the reason why riptides + prescience = profit
Tau with artillery and reserve manipulation!
Now I am glad that nobody bought my Catachans, lol. IG allies incoming! (IG for life, I am never going to remember to call them AM)
Cool to see the IG. Still think people need to hold back on dive bombing belakor down the field by himself. Force multiply and then go forward with heldrakes or something for
Multiple threats.
I agree, I usually run Belakor and have him hide and use his powers to be a sneaky bastard and then go roshambo people in the nuts
I played Belakor for a few weeks, then decided that 350 points worth of chaos was a better buy. An unmarked sorcerer rolling exclusively on Telepathy will get enough powers to replicate some of Belakor’s abilities and for about half the price. The rest of the points buy more bodies.
If Belakor is held back, just casting invisibility, etc., then what’s the point of having a CC badass?
That attitude is what got him killed. Be’lakor is a cleanup hitter, not a kick down the door unit.
Be’lakor was swooping, right? Were your veterans hitting him on 6’s?
He rolled 3 6’s and I rolled 3 1’s. It was just about that point when I tapped out.
True story, the dice were crazy.
Im not convinced on the wyvern to be fair.
In this day of death stars and knights and other knights and serpents and 2 riptides (need i go on) they they wont do jack.
They WILL kill crappy little cultist squads etc etc…but was your really going to have trouble with that anyway?
Its a “win more” vehcile. it will crush opponents that its good against that would wouldn’t of had any trouble with in the first place and at other times do jack sh!t. And it will take up a heavy slot to boot.
Much rather be getting more russes personally
Know all them Eldar jetbike squads scooting around being stupid? This here Wyvern is your fix.
Firstly: Models are removed from the centre of the blast. Which means if you hit the warlocks, they can’t LOS onto someone with a 2+/2+. It ignores cover, and it can rend though the 2+/2+ armour.
So, you can potentially snipe out some warlocks, with “only” a 4++/4++. It’s better odds than most, and if you can take out the armour boosting warlocks, healing warlocks, cover enhancing warlocks, etc, then the entire unit becomes a LOT less scary. Suddenly baledrakes can cause them to take mass wounds from inconventient angles, and they are down to 4++/4++.
jees, can i edit my post, its way too early here and spelling mistakes galore…..hope you got the point though :/
I saw your poo pooing of pask, i tried him and reeeeealy liked him. Basically a 4 heavy slot! i think you really have to build the list with it in mind though, as its super suseptable to assaults ( in 6th ed!! my word, who’d have thought)
Pask is amazing, having to buy two leman Russes to use him is not so amazing, IMO
I don’t know why you guys seem to love Hammer & Anvil. Imo it’s the death of 40K, along with gunlines behind Aegis Defense Lines. Can anything be more boring? Shooting doesn’t need more help. Tournaments in my area don’t even use Hammer&Anvil deployment, and fortifications are banned (and Battlebrothers downgraded to Allies of Convenience). Leads to way more open games.
Hammer and anvil is a fun deployment, it really mixes things up. We roll the deployment randomly, using all of the book deployments. Also, it makes using flyers a lot more interesting as you can’t plan on always having optimal set up. I think all three book deployments currently are good and serve a purpose.
Agreed on the hammer and anvil. So frustrating to get that deployment when you play a heavy melee army!
Thanx for the batrep.
Wow… Chaos never had a chance, hammer and anvil and the empty midfield except for one LOS blocker in the centre totally screwed them!
I don’t like H&A, it just gives another big advantage to shooty lists in a shooty edition.
I hope 7th gives melee a big buff.
Awesome.
Bring more batreps from the new IG….Can’t wait to see some of the new units in action…Would also like to see them fight against stronger armies…
Cool Batrep as always 🙂
Glad you liked it!
Great report as always.
The terrain piece that looks like an electrical substation is quite possibly the best looking piece of terrain I’ve seen in your battle reports.
Is it a kit or is it scratch built? If it is a kit, is it available thru FG?
Thanks and keep up the great work!!!!!!
Tom
It is scratch built, but thanks!
Maybe try out the two noobs: Nids vs AM
I’m sure once Geoff gets back from pax east that will be happening.
Awesome battle report. Good to see others confirming my thinking that the AM is going to be a really strong codex!
Yeah, they are really strong, no doubt!
If I was Raw Dogger, I would have put Be’Lakor in that middle building (within LOS) so he could maybe get the 2+ Cover from most of the shots (sans the Vet squad with the PS). Then, I would have tried to Puppet Master the Punisher or Plas-exterminator and get rid of that Vet Squad asap. I just think RD went up the wrong flank with ol’Belly that’s all.
Nice report, any chance of trying AM vs Israel’s forgeworld tau list, to see how they do in a gunfest?
I’m sure that will go down sooner than later =)
I’d like to see Chaos/Daemon get another shot too. My baledrake and I are demoralized…