Show Notes
11-2-13
News
- Get those Las Vegas Open tickets! Get your hotel room at Ballys and be sure to go through the link on our page or use our group code of SBFLG4
- Be sure to check out our new video series: Tips, Tricks and Dirty Tactics on our YouTube channel! It is really popular.
- The Tactics Corner at Frontline Gaming has grown a lot and is now a really useful source of information! Check it out for Videos, Articles, Lists and useful information.
- Infinity Tournament at GameScape North, November 23rd!
- Black Library announces an Inquisitorial Codex! Whaaaat! Awesome! It sounds like it will only be digital but it will allow Inquisitorial allies to any Imperial Army. This ties in with what we were told and have been saying since the dawn of 6th, that there would be ally mini-dexes that can be played on their own, but are not really meant to be. Sweet.
- Bitz Trading day at Frontline Gaming on November 16th!
- Forgeworld saying them will eventually update the other army lists and rules in their books, but to please be patient as they’re very busy.
- The Renegade Open GT is getting ready to rock and they still have room for anyone interested in coming!
- The Great Escape Games Twin Linked Tournament is going strong! Check it out on their site to get more info but it sounds like it has been a fun event, comp and all. A lot of the folks that hang out at FLG play in it and have been telling me they’ve really been enjoying it.
- Aliens vs. Predator the Miniatures game! W00t! Minis look rad, too.
- Pathfinder releases their Bestiary 4! Nice one!
- TableWar Kickstarter coming into the last 10 days! Get in on it while it’s hot!
- Agnostic Girrafe posts pictures of their Fungus Sorcerer! haha
Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.
- Tyranids are rumored to be early in 2014 at some point. More rumors that there will be combos, every unit will be viable, and the addition of a few specialized units to shore up their weaknesses to get them in line with 6th ed.
- Tyranic War vets to follow with some cool UM rules!
- Dwarves are rumored to be getting worked on as we speak, cool!
- HUGE! Faeit 212 is reporting that FW books will no longer have the “ask opponent’s permission” tagline that folks have used to resist FW and will now say, “make sure your opponent knows the rules.” BOOM! We called that at the beginning of 6th and folks doubted, if this comes to pass we will be vindicated and we will look like geniuses! haha
- Imperial Guard rumors: supposedly they will be coming out in Spring of next year with rumors of plastic Vets/Special Weapons Teams/Storm Troopers/Tanks in the book now that are missing and a Horus Heresy Tank as the “big” kit.
- Vets to be taken in smaller, more specialized rolls.
- Rumors about doctrines as per the old book that will probably work like Chapter Tactics for Marines.
- More FW units being ported over, repeatedly hearing about the Destroyer Tank.
- More rumors about the HQ being only a command squad with all of the other characters integrated into it such as a Psyker or Commissar Lord.
- Priests said to boost shooting?
- Tech Priests to buff units they are attached to similar to Crypteks.
- Vendetta/Valk going up in points as they should.
- Rumors of new 40K expansions such as:
- Escalation: allows Super Heavies and Lords of War in the game to play what sounds like mini-Apoc.
- Stronghold Assault: rules for fortifications in 40K, with lots of new rules.
- Fantasy Supplement: Sigmar’s Blood in which players can play Volkmar’s assault on Sylvania. Sounds cool with linked battles.
Rant Session
- There’s no points costs or unit descriptions in the Farsight codex for Farsight’s unit….wtf?
- Explain “Reverse Comp” and ask for feedback.
Tactics Corner
- Fortifications, such as a Skyshield, can give you a 3+ cover base!
Rules Lawyer
- FAQ Ruling on Comdemnor Boltguns: Random Psyker in unit hit by Perils, if more than one perils, randomize each perils. If Brotherhood of Psyker and Psyker in unit, Brotherhood counts as 1 psyker.
List Review
White Scars Tactics HQ: Chapter Master Bike, Thunder Hammer, Eternal Shield, Combi Gun HQ: Khan
HQ: DA Librarian Lv2, Bike, Force Maul, Melta Bombs, PFG
T: Bike Squad Sgt. Combi-Gun, 5x Bikers, 2x Grav Guns
T: Bike Squad Sgt. Combi-Gun, 5x Bikers, 2x Grav Guns
T: Bike Squad Sgt. Combi-Gun, 5x Bikers, 2x Grav Guns
T: Bike Squad Sgt. Combi-Gun, 5x Bikers, 1x PlasmaGun, 1x Flamer
T: Tactical Squad Sgt, Melta Bombs, Marine x4
FA: Black Knights Sgt. Melta Bombs, Grenade Launcher, Knights x4
FA: Storm Talon- TL Lascannons FA: Storm Talon- Skyhammer Missiles
HS: TFC HS: TFC
It has enough of everything to deal with most units. It does suffer from low model count but hopefully its speed helps. TFG for sniping and anti infantry in cover. Talons for anti air. Enough Plasma and Grav Guns for MCs and TL Bolters for anti infantry. Im really digging this list.
I am glad FW is changing the wording on allowed units but you know stubborn tournament organizers who dont like FW for whatever reason will continue to say no FW. I imagine that will be the case for a few more years until its slowly accepted as the norm.
Yeah, it always takes time to acclimate.
What do you mean, “No point cost or unit description in farsight supplement”?
Exactly that. The book only lists the wargear, and tells you to add the points up yourself.
But the models have unique rules and such, it’s weird.
what models have unique rules from farsight enclave? Because all of the “The Eight” are just independent characters and single battlesuits loaded up in gear.
So you can just add up the points then for them? We had a Tau player in here saying they had different rules on the digital version than the print.
I have the digital and the point cost for all the the eight are in there and same for the items with their rules. I would assume the hardcover book is the same as digital
Hahaha, that’s what we get for listening to Israel! I thought the same thing but he insisted that they had different rules. Thanks for the clarification.
what do you mean it only list wargear? It has the point cost for the eight, signature items, and that’s pretty much it for the supplement.
I prefer Mantis Warrior Allies for Divination. That Way I dont have to go back and forth between codices.
And you get Furious Assault out of terrain! haha
Frankie has a couple challenges on the forum
Yeah, they’re scheduling games via PM now!
that fungus mage would make a great herald of tzeentch, I want one
That’s a good idea, actually! He’d be fun for D&D or Pathfinder, too.
Seeing the FAQ on the condemnor is nice, and last week you resolved multiple hits onto the same character rather than randomize each. But every time I read about this gun and it being used I hate the wording even more.
What happens if psykers are out of LoS from the shooter, can they still be randomized to?
Or if certain psykers are out of LoS are they safe?
Also grav guns have a new question I have seen this week, do they strip the necron armor bonus if they get an immobilized result, since it wasn’t a penetrating hit.
Also I was thinking about it this weekend grav guns, and condemnors are some of the most poorly written rules we have seen. Since they complete ignore RAW in multiple ways they have cascading rules questions that are fundamental in their use. Really they need comprehensive FAQ’s to be used from a company that basically is refusing/unwilling to FAQ their rule set by saying that its a game for fun and if there is a rules disagreement just roll for it.
I think its already know but here the list with the weapons.
Grav Guns
Does it ignore Saves, invulnerable and cover.
Does it cause 1/2 hull points with the immobilized result.
How does it deal with mix saved units.
Can it strip the necron extra shielding even if it isn’t a penetrating hit.
Condemnor
Does it cause perils to a unit with a psyker in it or only “units with psyker special rules”
How many perils does it cause to a unit with multiple psykers
How do you allocate the perils it causes, if hit with multiple how to you resolve them.
Can it perils psykers that are out of line of sight.
Sigh i just thought it over in my head, can condemnors perils things outside of 24 inches, by hitting the unit.
I.E. if the psykers are outside 24 inches but the unit is within can you still perils the psykers?
Yes