Co-founder of Frontline Gaming, and creator of the ITC, Reece Robbins has been a pillar of the tabletop community for over two decades. From developing Blood Throne to launching industry-leading hobby products and major events like the LVO, his career is defined by innovation and a lifelong passion for gaming since the 80s. Today, he remains a very active community organizer and business leader dedicated to the growth of the hobby.
No my wallet needs a break!
1k sons are going how I hoped. Have an AoS Tzeentch army so this fleshed out my 1k sons nicely.
So 1k sons when? I hope and also fear it will be soon.
Granted I think Tau and Necrons deserve it more right now but guess they will still be soon.
Because injection molding molds have a price tag of anywhere from hundred of thousands to millions of dollars depending on detail and tolerances (and mini’s need high tolerances for the high detail.).
Financially it’s cheaper to add the rest of the Sigmar Tzaangors to 40k and say TSons got “new” “units” than it is to make a new mold for a Rubric Havoc upgrade pack, a upgrade pack for a Rubric/Sorcerer Dread for the boxnaught, or an Aspiring Disc Sorcerer kit.
It’s sad, it’s probably the best move financially, and I understand and accept the reasoning, but it doesn’t make me any less salty.
Mostly I’m just sad TSons Aspiring Sorcs are stuck with ghetto smite instead of the grab bag of random fun they had in 7th. Granted not much of that was useful but it felt better than having ghetto smite as a millennia old sorcerer and being outclassed by some hobo that make a deal with chaos but can’t even read of write.
Well, for what it’s worth, at least Tsons are getting Tzaangors, because the “totally great and awesome” beta rules gimped them into the gutter without them, so enjoy your “Tzaangor Sons”, my friend.
I’ll be excited to see if the Mutalith is any good, because I own 3 of them purely because they’re beautiful models.
Because Tzaangors have always been sort of the Thousand Sons background hailing form the Lost and the Damned book detailing the hordes of chaff from the planet of Sorcerers
Would have been nice if all that work (well done work too) for the plastic Custodes could have been invested into plastic Eldar Aspects and Sisters instead.
Guess the game needed stormcast etern.. I mean golden custodes marines more.
Good to see Thousand Sons get their book out though.
Will Warhammer enthusiasts ever be happy with the facts? Another Imperium release – so what! Imperium and Chaos forces sell. Space Marines sell like butter melts in a microwave. Realize that your army is given the priority it deserves according to the financial viability of a given schedule, GW is not led by ignorant people anymore. Quit whining!
The problem here is not with the news itself, it is on the time they come. If they were releasing a couple of xenos now, leaving ts and custodes for a few later, I don’t think there would be this level of salt.
A big portion of the comunity feels that, after 9 of 11 codex being empire or chaos, it was time for some xenos, specially when there is a major xenos faction in such an awful spot.
Warhammer enthusiasts don’t really care about financial schedules, they care about the game. GW now wants, at last, to care about their enthusiasts, so I hope they will react quickly to this bad reception. They should at least tell us something about when will come and who will be the next xenos to calm the waters. Perhaps even a few early sneak peaks of subfaction rules.
Yeah, this is why people are pissed. Not that they decided to add Custodes, but that they did Custodes before Orks/Tau/Necrons/Dark Eldar. Even Thousand Sons didn’t need a book NOW.
The whole “marines” sell best argument is bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Of course the majority of models sold will be marines if the majority of the miniatures range is marines. Likely because that means more marine releases/coverage/media etc.
All the marine-derivative and chaos releases are a bit of a kick in the teeth to all the other factions that are still waiting for a codex, especially the only marine-derivative that never gets the same treatment (Sisters of Battle).
TBH I don’t think any of the sub-factions (marine and chaos chapters etc) should have received a codex before the main factions all had one.
They are still releasing codices at breakneck speed. I’d wager Necrons, Tau, and Orks will all have codices by June. I’m an Ork player myself, so I sympathize… but I still remember having to wait several years and/or editions to get a new codex. The new GW is still much better.
All that said, I agree that it doesn’t look great for them to be doing chaos legions and fringe imperial factions before they’ve even done all the primary xenos factions. It would help a lot if they just released the codex schedule, even if it means them telling us xenos codices aren’t coming until March or April.
I have a hard time believing that Thousand Sons sell more than the entirety of Tau, Orks or Dark Eldar. And anyway, of course Marines are gonna keep on being more popular if they get all the model releases, hype and books. It’s a self-perpetuating cycle.
Yeah, it’s a surprise alright. A disappointing one. And if I had to wager, I’d put Space Wolves and the return of Leman Russ as the next thing happening. Because GW loves the Magnus vs Russ pissing match.
Meanwhile all us xenos players are sitting around and waiting. And waiting. And waiting. Call me salty, frankly I am, but I’d like to get my dex before the spring massive FAQ dump. Heck, at this rate I’m starting to think I won’t see my dex until after Chapter Approved 2018 goes to print.
You think it’s bad in 40k? AoS is chaos vs order and some other dudes when it comes to battletomes haha.
At least we got the generals handbook which flushed out alot of faction abilities for armies. But that took the entire length of the games life for that
Meh, I’m not too bothered by this, honestly. These are only the first two codices of the year, and at the rate they’re coming out, I don’t think the wait will be long for the rest of the Xenos codices. This is speaking as someone who already has an army with a codex, so take that how you will, but I am still waiting on my Necrons to get their codex. Also, remember the seminar at NOVA when the next six codexes were revealed? GW is doing another one of those seminars at LVO. Just wait a couple weeks to see what’s up with that. If your codex isn’t announced at that time, then, yeah, I can understand the disappointment. I get it, a lot of people have been waiting half a year. The LVO seminar could reveal a lot, though.
I’m not trying to be an apologist for GW, far from it. I get that this is disappointing for people who don’t have a codex for anything they own yet. I just thought I would give people a reminder that this is not the only potential codex announcement this month. Yes, hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. But that’s an Imperial proverb, and need not apply to Xenos. Da Boyz just need ta believe dat their codex announcement is commin’! Dem humiez won’t know wut hit dem! WAAAGH!!!!!! 😀
I too, eagerly await Orks 🙂 one of my favorite 40K armies to play. They’re quite good now, actually, but the dex always brings magic to an army with all the strats and fun stuff.
I don’t actually own an Ork army, personally. Too much stuff to paint. I suffer from the same problem with Tyranids, IG, etc. Although, I have to say, I love Orks from a fluff angle. Hoard armies just aren’t my thing.
More ingredients for imperial and chaos soups.
No my wallet needs a break!
1k sons are going how I hoped. Have an AoS Tzeentch army so this fleshed out my 1k sons nicely.
So 1k sons when? I hope and also fear it will be soon.
Granted I think Tau and Necrons deserve it more right now but guess they will still be soon.
*Chaos Daemon Codex review waiting room*
Why wasn’t the Mutalith in with Daemons?
Why is Thousand Son’s now more Tzaangors than actual Thousand Son’s?
Join us next month with more confused questions for GW.
Because injection molding molds have a price tag of anywhere from hundred of thousands to millions of dollars depending on detail and tolerances (and mini’s need high tolerances for the high detail.).
Financially it’s cheaper to add the rest of the Sigmar Tzaangors to 40k and say TSons got “new” “units” than it is to make a new mold for a Rubric Havoc upgrade pack, a upgrade pack for a Rubric/Sorcerer Dread for the boxnaught, or an Aspiring Disc Sorcerer kit.
It’s sad, it’s probably the best move financially, and I understand and accept the reasoning, but it doesn’t make me any less salty.
Mostly I’m just sad TSons Aspiring Sorcs are stuck with ghetto smite instead of the grab bag of random fun they had in 7th. Granted not much of that was useful but it felt better than having ghetto smite as a millennia old sorcerer and being outclassed by some hobo that make a deal with chaos but can’t even read of write.
Well, for what it’s worth, at least Tsons are getting Tzaangors, because the “totally great and awesome” beta rules gimped them into the gutter without them, so enjoy your “Tzaangor Sons”, my friend.
I’ll be excited to see if the Mutalith is any good, because I own 3 of them purely because they’re beautiful models.
If not, I’m excited to go balls deep on custodes.
Because Tzaangors have always been sort of the Thousand Sons background hailing form the Lost and the Damned book detailing the hordes of chaff from the planet of Sorcerers
Really looking forward to Legions of Nagash, looks like it’s shaking up the Death Grand Alliance 😀
Good thing we get more chaos and imperium books. Wouldn’t want to see any xenos armies in tournaments.
Well either the next codex or the one after… 🙂
I think the question is will Jan just be codex daemons. If so then both in February.
Really glad Chaos and Imperials are getting more options, it’s been getting boring seeing nothing but all of these Xenos lists everywhere I look.
Kappa
Truth. Why are they adding yet another faction to the Imperium? Sooooooo many!
Would have been nice if all that work (well done work too) for the plastic Custodes could have been invested into plastic Eldar Aspects and Sisters instead.
Guess the game needed stormcast etern.. I mean golden custodes marines more.
Good to see Thousand Sons get their book out though.
Will Warhammer enthusiasts ever be happy with the facts? Another Imperium release – so what! Imperium and Chaos forces sell. Space Marines sell like butter melts in a microwave. Realize that your army is given the priority it deserves according to the financial viability of a given schedule, GW is not led by ignorant people anymore. Quit whining!
The problem here is not with the news itself, it is on the time they come. If they were releasing a couple of xenos now, leaving ts and custodes for a few later, I don’t think there would be this level of salt.
A big portion of the comunity feels that, after 9 of 11 codex being empire or chaos, it was time for some xenos, specially when there is a major xenos faction in such an awful spot.
Warhammer enthusiasts don’t really care about financial schedules, they care about the game. GW now wants, at last, to care about their enthusiasts, so I hope they will react quickly to this bad reception. They should at least tell us something about when will come and who will be the next xenos to calm the waters. Perhaps even a few early sneak peaks of subfaction rules.
Yeah, this is why people are pissed. Not that they decided to add Custodes, but that they did Custodes before Orks/Tau/Necrons/Dark Eldar. Even Thousand Sons didn’t need a book NOW.
The whole “marines” sell best argument is bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Of course the majority of models sold will be marines if the majority of the miniatures range is marines. Likely because that means more marine releases/coverage/media etc.
All the marine-derivative and chaos releases are a bit of a kick in the teeth to all the other factions that are still waiting for a codex, especially the only marine-derivative that never gets the same treatment (Sisters of Battle).
TBH I don’t think any of the sub-factions (marine and chaos chapters etc) should have received a codex before the main factions all had one.
They are still releasing codices at breakneck speed. I’d wager Necrons, Tau, and Orks will all have codices by June. I’m an Ork player myself, so I sympathize… but I still remember having to wait several years and/or editions to get a new codex. The new GW is still much better.
All that said, I agree that it doesn’t look great for them to be doing chaos legions and fringe imperial factions before they’ve even done all the primary xenos factions. It would help a lot if they just released the codex schedule, even if it means them telling us xenos codices aren’t coming until March or April.
I have a hard time believing that Thousand Sons sell more than the entirety of Tau, Orks or Dark Eldar. And anyway, of course Marines are gonna keep on being more popular if they get all the model releases, hype and books. It’s a self-perpetuating cycle.
To absolutely no one’s surprise, the big surprise is two more codices about guys in powered armor.
I literally just got back from dropping $150 on codex daemons then see this. Goddamn GW keeps punch f***ing my ***hole for $$ since 8th dropped.
Yeah, it’s a surprise alright. A disappointing one. And if I had to wager, I’d put Space Wolves and the return of Leman Russ as the next thing happening. Because GW loves the Magnus vs Russ pissing match.
Meanwhile all us xenos players are sitting around and waiting. And waiting. And waiting. Call me salty, frankly I am, but I’d like to get my dex before the spring massive FAQ dump. Heck, at this rate I’m starting to think I won’t see my dex until after Chapter Approved 2018 goes to print.
You think it’s bad in 40k? AoS is chaos vs order and some other dudes when it comes to battletomes haha.
At least we got the generals handbook which flushed out alot of faction abilities for armies. But that took the entire length of the games life for that
My theory is that Tau/Necron/Orks, will not see a codex until all Chaos/Imperial/Eldar have been released.
Meh, I’m not too bothered by this, honestly. These are only the first two codices of the year, and at the rate they’re coming out, I don’t think the wait will be long for the rest of the Xenos codices. This is speaking as someone who already has an army with a codex, so take that how you will, but I am still waiting on my Necrons to get their codex. Also, remember the seminar at NOVA when the next six codexes were revealed? GW is doing another one of those seminars at LVO. Just wait a couple weeks to see what’s up with that. If your codex isn’t announced at that time, then, yeah, I can understand the disappointment. I get it, a lot of people have been waiting half a year. The LVO seminar could reveal a lot, though.
I’m not trying to be an apologist for GW, far from it. I get that this is disappointing for people who don’t have a codex for anything they own yet. I just thought I would give people a reminder that this is not the only potential codex announcement this month. Yes, hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. But that’s an Imperial proverb, and need not apply to Xenos. Da Boyz just need ta believe dat their codex announcement is commin’! Dem humiez won’t know wut hit dem! WAAAGH!!!!!! 😀
I too, eagerly await Orks 🙂 one of my favorite 40K armies to play. They’re quite good now, actually, but the dex always brings magic to an army with all the strats and fun stuff.
I don’t actually own an Ork army, personally. Too much stuff to paint. I suffer from the same problem with Tyranids, IG, etc. Although, I have to say, I love Orks from a fluff angle. Hoard armies just aren’t my thing.
COOL
Reeeece, what have you got to say about the Custards now that they’ve been officially announced? !
I can’t give up any details but they’re a lot like what you’d expect. Each dude is a bad ass! They’re a lot of fun.
Exciting.
The models look great. Please give some delicious tidbits/teases if you can’t give details on the Wednesday podcast
I will disclose as much as I ethically and legally am able to 🙂