We discuss the ITC Missions updates and discussion. Joins us for the conversation and get some community news in the bargain.
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Show Notes
Date: 2-19-20
Intro
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News
- GW has been hinting at the new PA book and it looks to obviously feature Orks so far. The rules for Makari are really funny so far and look fun.
- New Aeronautica Imperialis models on the way and awww, they’re so cute and teeny tiny!
- ITC Mission updates rolling along! Thanks to everyone for the continued feedback!
Upcoming ITC Events
Upcoming 40k ITC Events
- Game Knight Winter Open WH40k Doubles Tournament, Huntingburg, Indiana, USA, February 22nd 2020, Sponsor: Game Knight
- Manchester waaagh 1, Manchester, UK, February 22nd 2020, Sponsor: Lords of Waaagh
- Dice of Fury 18, Vancouver, Washington, USA, Sponsor: fateandfurygames
- Fething February RTT, Peculiar, Missouri, UK, February 22nd, 2020, Sponsor: Peculiar Games and Hobbies
- Matrix cards and games ITC Iron Man tournament, Redding , CA, USA, February 22nd, 2020 Sponsor: matrixcardsandgames
- The Navigator Challenge, Northwich, England, UK, February 22nd, 2020, Sponsor: Goblin Gaming
- The Portal’s February WH40K Tournament, Manchester, CT, USA, February 22nd, 2020, The Portal
- Warhammer 40k Tournament at HobbyTown, Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA, February 22nd, 2020, Sponsor: HobbyTown Fayetteville
- WCT Episode 1, Gothenburg, Vastra Gotaland, Sverige, February 22-23rd, 2020
- Warhammer 40K ITC Tournament, St.Petersburg, Florida, FLG, Sponsor: Critical.Hit.Games.FL
- GT: Warp Storm, Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire, UK, February 22-23rd, 2020
- DDGK Open, Nashville, TN, USA, February 22nd 2020, Sponsor: The Game Cave
- Dirty Dozen RTT, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada, February 22nd 2020
- Warhammer 40K ITC Adepticon Primer Tourney, Oshkosh, WI, USA, February 22nd 2020, Sponsor: Flying Phoenix Games
- Highwaymen Gaming Monthly, Toms River, New Jersey, USA, February 22nd 2020, Sponsor: East Coast Gamers
- Dice N Duels February 2k Tourney, Fernley, Nevada, USA, February 22nd 2020, Sponsor: Dicenduels
- Colorado Cutthroats RTT Feb, Parker, Colorado, USA, ebruary 22nd 2020 Sponsor: Collectormania Parker
- MAJOR: Warhammer 40k ITC Major Event, Midlothian, VA, February 22-23rd, 2020 Sponsored: Coastal Wargaming & WCG
- MAJOR: Prague Open GT, Prague, Czech Republic, February 22-23rd, 2020
- Kent 40k Tournament, Ashford, UK, February 23rd, 2020
- Moxies FEB RTT, Columbus, Georgia, USA, February 23rd, 2020 : Sponsor
- Warpstorm WH40K ITC Style tournament, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, UK, February 23rd, 2020 Sponsor: Warpstorm Wargames
- Game Post: SoMa Rift II, San Francisco, CA, USA, February 23rd, 2020, Sponsor: Game Post
- For Love of War – Warhammer 40,000 RTT, Dickson City, Pennsylvania (PA), USA, February 23rd, 2020 Sponsor: adventuregamespa
Upcoming AoS ITC Events
- At Ease Games Monthly ITC Tournament, San Diego CA, February 23rd, 2019
- February Haven AOS RTT, Spokane Valley, WA, February 23rd, 2019
- Age of Sigmar ITC Tournament, The Portal, Manchester, CT, February 23rd, 2019
- Age Of Sigmar 2k ITC RTT Tournament, Fredericksburg, VA, February 24th, 2019
40k ITC Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Vik | Vijay | 739.3 | 4 of 5 |
| 2 | Phil | Barfoot | 486.78 | 3 of 5 |
| 3 | Reed | Sto | 462.31 | 3 of 5 |
| 4 | Ryan | Williams | 430.2 | 3 of 5 |
| 5 | James | Kelling | 416.65 | 3 of 5 |
| 6 | Cyle | Thompson | 395.39 | 2 of 5 |
| 7 | Michael | Sarapata | 393.22 | 3 of 5 |
| 8 | Mike | Porter | 376.85 | 2 of 5 |
| 9 | John | Lennon | 373.99 | 2 of 5 |
| 10 | Simon | Priddis | 367.37 | 2 of 5 |
40k ITC Hobby Track Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | James | Weston | 315.51 | 3 of 5 |
| 2 | Ariel | Cortes | 257.47 | 2 of 5 |
| 3 | Marshall | Peterson | 217.39 | 2 of 5 |
| 4 | Richard | Kilton | 181.86 | 2 of 5 |
| 4 | Colton | Hatch | 181.86 | 2 of 5 |
| 6 | John | Lennon | 180.56 | 1 of 5 |
| 6 | Andrew | Gonyo | 180.56 | 1 of 5 |
| 6 | Richard | Siegler | 180.56 | 1 of 5 |
| 6 | Nick | Nanavati | 180.56 | 1 of 5 |
| 6 | Colin | Sherman | 180.56 | 1 of 5 |
AoS ITC Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Mathew | Jones | 322.56 | 3 of 5 |
| 2 | Gareth | Thomas | 310.66 | 2 of 5 |
| 3 | Lee | Boeckmann | 280.95 | 3 of 5 |
| 4 | Justin | Costello | 258.4 | 2 of 5 |
| 5 | Daniel | Velazquez | 253.91 | 2 of 5 |
| 6 | Matthew | Anderson | 246.15 | 2 of 5 |
| 7 | Robert | Proscia | 240.7 | 2 of 5 |
| 8 | Matt | Abbott | 235 | 2 of 5 |
| 9 | Aaron | Newbom | 233.58 | 2 of 5 |
| 10 | Jarrett | Zazuetta | 214.76 | 2 of 5 |
AoS ITC Hobby Track Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Matt | Abbott | 163.46 | 1 of 5 |
| 2 | Brian | Blickle | 155.37 | 1 of 5 |
| 3 | Ryan | Burwell | 146.79 | 1 of 5 |
| 4 | Chris | Daugherty | 137.95 | 1 of 5 |
| 5 | Samuel | Valdez | 122.65 | 1 of 5 |
| 6 | Joseph | Halfacre | 114.89 | 1 of 5 |
| 6 | Josh | Lara | 114.89 | 1 of 5 |
| 8 | Russ | Tanner | 108.31 | 1 of 5 |
| 9 | Philip | Verduzco | 89.17 | 1 of 5 |
| 10 | Chandler | Torres | 84.51 | 1 of 5 |
Shadespire ITC Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Christopher | Avalos | 272.22 | 2 of 5 |
| 2 | Peter | Rivera | 204.9 | 1 of 5 |
| 3 | Aman | Khusro | 188.42 | 1 of 5 |
| 4 | Victor | Szafranski | 181.78 | 1 of 5 |
| 5 | Rob | Howard | 172.84 | 1 of 5 |
| 6 | Robert | Schuxhardt | 172.14 | 2 of 5 |
| 7 | Even | Skjervold | 171.73 | 1 of 5 |
| 8 | Derek | Traquair | 166.22 | 1 of 5 |
| 9 | Tony | Field | 165.06 | 2 of 5 |
| 10 | David | Cutts | 161.42 | 1 of 5 |
Kill Team ITC Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Kyle | Fjerstad | 192.69 | 1 of 5 |
| 2 | Shane | Watts | 189.87 | 2 of 5 |
| 3 | Álvaro | Lorenzo | 178.99 | 1 of 5 |
| 4 | Will | Reinbold | 173.87 | 1 of 5 |
| 5 | Kenti | “SexyFridge” | 169.83 | 1 of 5 |
| 6 | Sergio | Sedano Canitrot | 165.98 | 1 of 5 |
| 7 | Janis | Gilham | 161.42 | 1 of 5 |
| 8 | Hamm | Samitch | 161.19 | 1 of 5 |
| 9 | Pat Steele | Wilson | 156.74 | 2 of 5 |
| 10 | Naryn | Davar | 156.6 | 1 of 5 |
Tactics Corner
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I don’t get why people think old Marines were particularly underpowered?
They were somewhat stuck in a mono-build-corner (as many armies are), but they had an army in the shadowround at the previous LVO (which is about the kind of result you’d expect of any given army out of 15-ish Codexes competing to get into a set of 12) and won the odd event here and there.
Either way, I don’t think the “space marine problem” is even that.
The problem is and has been essentially since the very first Marine Codex that GW’s approach to “fixing” things mostly has been to dial up the damage output of armies, improving their accuracy, adding more shots, bonus abilities to wound, add better re-rolls, more reliable charges, more abilities ot shoot twice, fight twice, stack buffs and bonuses, more abilities to ignore penalties and neg. modifiers such as having moved or damaged vehicles, etc.., etc.., because players generally dislike having their units working at “sub optimal efficiency” or “whiffing”.
Which is what is so silly about the idea of Marines in their current form being allegedly (intentionally) the first of a new “8.5” Edition with other armies being “brought up” eventually.
That, IMO, is just going further down the rabbit hole. At some point, you cannot sensibly fix the game by bringing other armies “up to that level” of lethality and reliability. At some point (perhaps this truly does need an “edition change” to sell the bitter medicine), stuff IMO will need to significantly “go down” (e.g. get “nerfed” / lose efficiency / abilities, etc..) to not end up in a coin-flip game.
Backhanded compliment here I come!
I never agreed with your general stance of upping defence as I hate that games drag forever and that seemed like a natural outcome of increasing defence.
I’d also say in the context of ‘regular humans’ being prevalent in the game old marines were definitely weak. They didn’t kill anything and were boring.
That being said, can’t argue that upping everythings damage output and multiple stacking special rules doesn’t really lead to a better experience over all so perhaps youve been onto something all along ?
I would like to come back again with the Hobby Track that is not handled properly as I did for last season. I had 3-4 events last year that scores weren’t entered properly or that BCP didn’t manage to put in properly. This costed me around 70 pts and got me out of the top 10 for the Hobby Track. 2 weeks ago my team and I want to Canhammer Team Tournament, and I’m pretty sure we scored the most point for presentation (we got 3rd Overall Trophies instead as it was a bigger prize), but BCP awarded us the same score we had in battle points (8th place) instead of our first place in Hobby Track. This is another difference of 65 points that we don’t get and that Team Charity Hammer is getting instead as they got first place for battle points. I did contact the TO and was told that he sent a request to change this to BCP and it is now in their hands. I also contacted BCP and they didn’t even react to my request after a couple of days.
This is definitely frustrating for those of us that put the effort in this hobby and competition. It should be resolved and not ignored as I feel it is. I’m pretty sure that if we were talking about the battle point scores, people would consider that a big issue and put some effort in resolving it.
I’m trying to figure out what hapenned with the CanHammer event, they didn’t score it correctly for some reason. But yes, that is frustrating for sure.
There’s generally seems to be a problem with certain events publishing scores using what I’m told is an ITC rubric. Last year I won best painted at 3 majors/gts and scored 0 competitive points. I say zero because while I was given points towards the ITC it was the same points submitted to everyone for Hobby.
I know it’s up to the TO, but maybe there’s a way Itc can at least figure out who took first second and third and award points appropriately or something I don’t know. It was just really frustrating