Hello, fellow Warhammer 40k fans! SaltyJohn from TFG Radio, and one of the Las Vegas Open Head Judges, here to bring you a wrap up of this week in the ITC.
Last week I discussed the Code of Conduct, Terrain Guidelines, and List Format requirements for the ITC and LVO this year. Then I had an interview with Joshua Death and Nick Rose, two players who have been in and out of various spots in the top 10 all season. If you’re still looking for information on the Terrain Guidelines and Code of Conduct the Hyperlinks above go straight to them, also you can listen to the latest episode of TFG Radio where 3 of the LVO Head Judges, including myself, discuss them and answer some questions from our Twitch audience about the documents.
Neither the top 10 nor the Team rankings have changed but I like to throw them up there so there’s a reminder of where things stand. This week I wanted to focus on a faction, and the factions best players in the world right now according to the ITC. I picked Tau for a few reasons. The first is they seem to always be a much-maligned faction in the game, from their inception when they were poked fun at for being GW’s Trade Federation Star Wars knock-off race to Space Commies to their player base getting more heat online than seemingly any other. With all that in mind, I know we have a strong Tau presence in our local So Cal meta and I have experienced first hand what the Tau are capable of on the Table Top. I played two Tau players at the Bay Area Open this year, rounds 3 and 4, and although I beat both of them they both went on to have winning records for the event, 4-2 and 5-1 respectively. It’s a good army, but seeing as I don’t play it I thought it would be best to go to the best players in the world right now for Tau and get their perspectives. All three of them, Todd Silber, Richard Windau, and Ken Coriale agreed to answer my questions, so big thank you to them upfront!
You are one of the three best Tau players in the world currently according to ITC rankings. How does that feel? Were you aware of it?
Todd: I was. It was a year start Goal, and to have hit it, even if for a short time is fulfilling.
Ken: I appreciate that the ITC tracks performance by faction, so that no matter how “strong” your faction is, you don’t have to feel handicapped by your faction choice – you can always compete to be the best among those who have chosen the same faction. I’ve closely followed the Tau ratings this season and I’m happy to show that Tau can still find success in Eighth Edition. I’ve particularly enjoyed winning two GTs so far this season.
Richard: Yes, I’m aware I’ve had some luck this year
What is it about competitive 40k and the ITC that has you playing Tau this season?
Todd: The constant haters on the internet, that claim an army can’t be good or competitive. The ones who know how bad an army is before the Codex even comes out, or playing a single game.
Ken: I got back into 40k at the start of Eighth Edition. When choosing a faction, I picked Tau as the combination of lore and playstyle that best suited me. They’re the only faction I’ve played competitively since then.
Richard: I’ve played tau since 4th, 8th edition coupled with the growth of competitive scene has helped the variety of armies, and tau has such a solid dex besides my other army is grav heavy marines…
What have you had the most success within the Tau codex this season?
Todd: Drones. And a distant second the Commanders with CIB.
Ken: I really think Commanders are underappreciated. 2+ Ballistic Skill and the ability to carry quite a few powerful weapons makes them a very heavy-hitting unit that can solve a lot of problems for a generally Ballistic Skill-challenged faction.
Richard: The usual suspect’s Riptides, drones, and fire warriors.
What if anything, stands out to you as issues that other Tau players face that you have overcome?
Todd: Patience I would say. Understanding that you will be outscored by a lot for the first 3 turns. Don’t get desperate if its 12-4 at the end of turn 2. Stay to your game plan, keep your army alive, and focus on scoring at the end, this goes with what secondaries to pick as well.
Ken: One of the big mistakes I see other players make is to play Tau as a static gun line. Tau are not the strongest faction for that – armies like Guard and AdMech will win a straight shoot-out nearly every time. Tau needs to be played as a mobile army to achieve the best results.
Richard: Because of the level of opponents in our area and the silly gotchas I feel the main thing is screening and wrap tricks that are really taus downfall if you don’t prepare for that you likely lose.
How do you prepare for events generally?
Todd: I try not to over think it, and just focus on what I think is my best playstyle, which is; Have no set game plan, never intend to rely on any one thing, and understand the harm and benefit in every action. Play out tons of different “what ifs” and scenarios in my head and have a counter for each.
Ken: I’m a meticulous planner. Before a large event, I’ll look at the better players (often the top 250 in ITC) that are attending and I’ll check BCP to see what lists they’ve been playing recently. It’s even better when events require pre-submission and post lists. I’ll then come up with the outline of a strategy for facing the different types of lists I expect the better players to bring.
Richard: Well, I wake up and take a nice shower, eat some blueberries if I procrastinated as usual and wrote my list the night before or finished throwing 3 colors on this sadly is a real insight.
What is the biggest strength for Tau competitively? What is their biggest weakness?
Todd: Savior Protocols by a mile are the biggest strength. With Chess clocks also, not playing 1.5 phases of the game is beneficial. The weakness is placement, based on your ability to fire overwatch and for the greater good. If a board has a lot of ruins of LOS blocking, you have to make sure to stay far so can always take Overwatch. IT is very difficult to do with how GT’s set up terrain, as it should be in all honesty.
Ken: Tau’s biggest strength is drones. Tau armies generally have very few damage-dealing models – drones allow Tau battlesuits to be immune to alpha strikes. Instead of being able to pick out my damage-dealing models, an opponent must grind through my army to defeat me. Tau’s biggest weakness is the range (and not, as people often think melee). Tau are easily outshot at long range by several other armies (most notably Guard, AdMech, and Knights). The most important, and perhaps most difficult, skill for a Tau player to develop is the ability to close the range to enemies without taking too much damage.
Richard: Their biggest strength is their damage output And their weakest is their lack of board denial/board control this seems to be the issue in most games I lose which is a lot. That tau late-game struggle to hold multiple objectives they never score the bonus points. The upper ITC score limits are really 37ish I’ve never scored a 42 with them so to me that’s a glaring weakness compared to really top tier armies who can score 42s also the fact they completely skip 2 phases of the game
What do you generally run in your Tau list(s)? Is there anything unique that you bring to the table?
Todd: GHOSTKEEL, only because it’s my favorite model in the game, recently dropped for a 3rd riptide however for the last 2 GT’s I won. So 50+ drones are probably my thing, including Grav Inhibitors and Pulse Acc.
Ken: I generally run 3 Riptides and 3 Commanders as the damage dealers of my army, supported by drones, fire warriors, and pathfinders – so nothing too unusual, though I am a stronger supporter of Commanders than most. The one unusual unit I sometimes use is Vespids, which I find to be great for their mobility and ability to deal with MEQs (though at the moment they’re not in my list, as the meta has moved away from MEQs).
Richard: All my tau list are totally original and never ever have I stole any ideas from any other tau players name Geoff , ever , Seriously though there are a few good tau lists and I’ve run most of them but there’s nothing unique; most good lists are similar Riptides and drones Firewarrior spam with sniper drones Cold stars And before the nerf tiger sharks.
There are a lot of “net lists” out there for Tau. In my experience the best Tau lists are centered heavily on Tau Fire Warriors as their base with marker light supported Rip Tides. I have found the amount of shots that the Fire Warriors can put out with the aid of some key characters to be truly devastating. Would you agree that the Fire Warrior is the backbone to a good Tau list? Why or why not?
Todd: It could be, but I do not like doing what everyone else does for starters. My list has 15 fire warriors in it. I find the list I play very challenging and unforgiving if you make a mistake but very potent and brutal at the same time. My opinion is that one of the best players in the world, Gonyo, plays that big fire warrior list I hear. So if that’s the case, If others find success based on what he can do with that list, how could you argue its not the go-to list? I just prefer to give it a go differently.
Ken: I like fire warriors and always take some, but I’m not sure they’re amazing. They can provide good firepower, but they have two key weaknesses: They are able to be locked in combat, which can be devastating to Tau, and they cannot be taken in large units so they give up a lot of kill points in ITC. I think the backbone of a good Tau list is the battlesuits, particularly those with the FLY keyword.
Richard: In majority of lists I would definitely agree In my ATC list I had 3 marker lights and 30 Fire Warriors the minimum for 2 battalions I hardly ever take more than 3 marker lights which would surprise most people Firewarriors are a great value for their ppm coupled with a Fireblade marker lights and warlord traits you can quickly have a 70 pt unit mowing down hordes of models which I expect to be the case moving forward with the prevalence of Orks.
Whether you are attending the Las Vegas Open or not, what do you anticipate will be key to a Tau player winning the whole event?
Todd: I think the Key is to just be patient with Tau and have no set game plan as I said above. Do not intend to rely on anything, and if the moment is presented to do some shock and awe, out of the box thing, seize it. In Pro-Fighting days there was a saying, “Everyone has a plan until they are punched in the mouth.” Now of course you are not going to physically punch someone over toy soldiers, but you can take the meaning of that phrase and apply it to competitive 40k.
Ken: I believe Tau have only two major wins this season, so I think winning the LVO will be a tall task. Nevertheless, the vagaries of dice, terrain, and matchups mean it cannot be discounted. I think the key to a Tau army having a chance is going to be to go into each match with a good battle plan and to execute it well. With Tau armies generally only having a few damage dealers, a mistake that exposes them or the failure to ensure they do damage where they are needed can spiral into disaster very quickly.
Richard: Honestly luck, getting good matchups and maybe squeaking a key win though I doubt tau could win the whole thing based off the reasons I’ve listed However whoever places the highest as tau probably ends up best tau so that’s exciting for tau players everyone has a shot.
Again, a big thank you to Todd, Richard, and Ken for agreeing to let me speak to them about their success with Tau this season. Let me know what you thought of the article in the comments, and let me know what you would like to hear about in the weeks running up to the Las Vegas Open! Remember for info about the new Terrain Guidelines and ITC Code of Conduct read the docs hyperlinked above and you can listen to 3 of the LVO Head Judges discuss it on TFG Radio’s latest podcast. There won’t be an article next week, I’ll be on vacation, but be sure to let me know who you’d like to hear from, or what about, before the LVO!
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