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Show Notes
Date: 8-8-18
Intro
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News
- This week’s new release from GW: New Necromunda Gang, more AoS units! You can pick any of these up from Frontline Gaming at a nice discount and with FREE shipping for orders $99 and up within the continental USA.
- We’ve got a new FLG Mat: Asphalt. This is a very cool new mat and is perfect for urban settings. Grab it out of the web-cart at a nice discount during the release week! This offer ends Tuesday, August 14th, 2018.
- Adeptus Titanicus is on the way! This exciting new game from GW looks fantastic and we can’t wait to tell you more about it! Stay tuned to FLG for a review of the game, soon.
- Huge congrats to Team USA who’ve won the ETC! Nicely done, boys!
- The LVO 2019 continues to build in awesomeness! We will be adding Kill Teams, Dropzone and Dropfleet Commander events this week and we’ve got some very cool news on the way regarding other games as well. Additionally our Flames of War tournament is the West Coast Nationals! Tickets have been moving steadily so grab one if you want to participate.
- The SoCal Open 2018 draws nearer! With the BAO behind us this is the next big event for us and it is already much bigger than last year’s event. Coming down the home stretch of the season before the Holidays when event cool down, this will be one of the last opportunities to throw up a big score before the LVO!
- Be sure to watch the coverage from the NOVA Open! GW, Frankie, Geoff and Mariana will be bringing you some awesome coverage of the event.
Upcoming ITC Events
- The updated ITC missions are nearly a go! Thanks so much for all of the feedback you’ve given us so far, it’s been mega helpful.
- This will be a fine tuning, not a major change. Any major structural changes will wait until the new season.
- Here’s some interesting data from the poll!
- Generally speaking, you all told us you really enjoy the ITC missions but feel there is some room for improvement.
- Most popular vote on if you liked the mission or not was a 4 out of 5 (49.6% of respondents) followed by a 5 out of 5 (31%), then a 3 (13.3%) followed by 1 (5.2%) then 2 (3.7%).
- You all really like the primary mission!
- 89% of respondents said they liked the Primary mission!
- Most popular scenario:
- 34% of respondents said scenario 6 (“Precious Cargo” with 4 objectives, one of which you move) was their favorite mission. It’s my personal favorite, too!
- Only 2% of respondents said scenario 4 (“What’s Yours is Mine” with 2 nine inch control zones) was their favorite…lol.
- Least popular scenario:
- With a whopping 50.6% of the votes, scenario 4 was voted the least popular!
- At only 2.4% of the vote, scenario 3 was the least offensive (Nexus Control, 4 static objectives).
- Most popular secondaries:
- 90.2% of respondents said they liked Old School.
- 85.7% of respondents said they liked Recon.
- 78.9% of respondents said they liked Headhunter.
- Least popular secondaries:
- 76.4% of respondents said they thought Gang Busters could be improved.
- 64.6% of respondents said they thought Death by 1,000 Cuts could be improved.
- 67.3% of respondents said they thought The Reaper could be improved.
- Lastly, our concerns about the complexity of score keeping are largely not a big deal. 89% of you said you found it easy to keep score.
- Thanks for your feedback!
- Generally speaking, you all told us you really enjoy the ITC missions but feel there is some room for improvement.
Upcoming 40k ITC Events
- GT: Hammer of Wrath GT, Game Empire, Pasadena, CA, August 11th-12th, 2018
- Warhammer 40K ITC Tournament, MJ Cards and Comics, Wasilla, AK, August 11th, 2018
- Crucible Carnage 40k 2000pt ITC Tournament, Armada Games, Tampa, FL, August 11th, 2018
- MAJOR: Warzone: Giga-Bites 2018, Giga-Bites Tabletop Gaming Cafe, Marietta, GA, August 11-12th, 2018
- 40K ITC Champions Tourney (2K), Bc Comix of Battle Creek, Battle Creek, MI, August 11th, 2018
- CWL 40k Open, Alberta, Canada, August 11th, 2018
- Huscarl 40k ITC Tournament, Topeka, KS, August 11th, 2018
- ALBANY EXTERMINATUS, Flipside Gaming East Greenbush, East Greenbush, NY, August 11th, 2018
- 40K United’s Back to School Event, Miniature Market Retail Superstore, St. Louis, MO, August 11th, 2018
- Into the Eye of the Hellstorm – 1750 Warhammer 40k Tournament, Sanctuary Gaming Centre, Sutton-in-Ashfield, United Kingdom, August 11th, 2018
- Scottish Take Over Doubles GT (Single players welcome), The Seaforth Club, Elgin, Scotland, August 11th, 2018
- August GW RTT, Scottsdale, AZ, August 12th, 2018
- Warhammer 40k Tournament – 2000 points, Gamer’s Hideout, Saint Robert, MO, August 12th, 2018
- Battle Bro Border Bash, British Columbia, Canada, August 12th, 2018
- Heat of Battle ITC Tournament, Adventure Games, Dickson City, PA, August 12th, 2018
- IQ Games Centre ITC Warhammer 40K Monthly, IQ Games Centre, Huddersfield, England, August 12th, 2018
- Warp Charged Gaming Presents: Battle In The Warp Doubles Tournament, Richmond, VA, August 12th, 2018
Upcoming AoS ITC Events
- Otto’s August AoS 1000pt ITC, Bakersfield CA, August 11th, 2018
- Dead Heat! A Warhammer Age Of Sigmar Tournament, Games U., Gilbert, AZ, August 12th, 2018
- Age Of Sigmar ITC Event at TerraCrux Games, Tacoma, WA, August 18th, 2018
- BWG: RTT 8/19 – 2,000 Points/3 Rounds, Gamers Heaven, Phoenixville PA, August 19th, 2018
- Clash of the Tetons 2, Cheyenne, WY, August 24th, 2018
- OFCC 2018 Age Of Sigmar (AOS) Tournament, Vancouver WA, August 25th, 2018
- Age Of Sigmar Tournament, Fremont CA, August 25th, 2018
- War Zone Age Of Siggy Diggy Monthly, Mattoon IL, August 26th, 2018
40k ITC Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Matt | Root | 691.07 | 5 of 5 |
| 2 | Nick | Nanavati | 640.11 | 5 of 5 |
| 3 | Joshua | Death | 635.55 | 5 of 5 |
| 4 | Geoff | Robinson | 619.99 | 5 of 5 |
| 5 | Nick | Gower | 617.09 | 5 of 5 |
| 6 | Don | Hooson | 616.2 | 5 of 5 |
| 7 | Trent | Northington | 613.52 | 5 of 5 |
| 8 | Steven | Pampreen | 596.04 | 5 of 5 |
| 9 | Mitchell | Pelham | 593.48 | 5 of 5 |
| 10 | Daniel | Olivas | 589.97 | 5 of 5 |
40k ITC Hobby Track Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Jeffrey | Merrick | 348.7 | 4 of 5 |
| 2 | Nick | Gower | 327.37 | 4 of 5 |
| 3 | Lou | Rollins | 324.73 | 3 of 5 |
| 4 | Antonio | Cedeno | 307.41 | 4 of 5 |
| 5 | Mike | Genoni | 290.4 | 3 of 5 |
| 6 | Matthew | Bodnarchuk | 290.12 | 3 of 5 |
| 7 | Shawn | Prosser | 286.89 | 4 of 5 |
| 8 | William | Ivey | 279.72 | 4 of 5 |
| 9 | Nick | Barden | 279.19 | 4 of 5 |
| 10 | David | Danuser | 277.86 | 4 of 5 |
AoS ITC Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Joe | Krier | 469.64 | 4 of 5 |
| 2 | James | Thomas | 446.05 | 4 of 5 |
| 3 | Mathew | Jones | 439.17 | 4 of 5 |
| 4 | Joshua | Harvey | 427.39 | 4 of 5 |
| 5 | Steven | Hyche | 419.67 | 4 of 5 |
| 6 | Ken | Eubanks | 410.34 | 4 of 5 |
| 7 | Randall | Nelson | 388.51 | 4 of 5 |
| 8 | Jarrett | Zazuetta | 387.53 | 4 of 5 |
| 9 | Matthew | Pashby | 381.09 | 4 of 5 |
| 10 | Alexander | Gonzalez | 378.09 | 4 of 5 |
AoS ITC Hobby Track Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | laljit | sidhu | 208.52 | 2 of 5 |
| 2 | Philip | Verduzco | 158.69 | 2 of 5 |
| 3 | Frank | DeLoach | 158.62 | 2 of 5 |
| 4 | Scott | Reed | 155.07 | 2 of 5 |
| 5 | Joshua | Harvey | 150.5 | 2 of 5 |
| 6 | Ben | Nelson | 146.37 | 2 of 5 |
| 7 | Josh | Greenfield | 124.35 | 2 of 5 |
| 8 | Chris | Stifter | 110.56 | 1 of 5 |
| 9 | Tyler | Hamil | 105.55 | 2 of 5 |
| 10 | Daniel | Callaghan | 96.74 | 1 of 5 |
Shadespire ITC Hobby Track Top 10
| Rank | First Name | Last Name | Points | Events |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Mike | Corse | 333.98 | 3 of 5 |
| 2 | Matt | Everhart | 318.32 | 3 of 5 |
| 3 | Brandon | Ulick | 313.89 | 3 of 5 |
| 4 | Andrew | Everhart | 298.73 | 3 of 5 |
| 5 | Josue | Ibarra | 297.42 | 3 of 5 |
| 6 | Tony | Field | 276.65 | 3 of 5 |
| 7 | David | Escobar | 263.04 | 3 of 5 |
| 8 | David | Cutts | 256.37 | 3 of 5 |
| 9 | Julian | Johnson | 231.87 | 3 of 5 |
| 10 | Christopher | Avalos | 228.06 | 3 of 5 |
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Alright, I’m triggered. I have never said that Magnus and Morty suck. I base my unit ratings on results first and foremost. I follow the competitive scene very closelly through BCP and see them all the times.
Greater Daemons suck. Primarchs do not.
Short rant over. To answer why you see a lot more Magnus/Mortarion and Superheavies in general in ETC is because:
1) You pick and choose match-ups. You will not randomly run into a lascannon spam army.
2) Big models are very prone to bad rolls. Most of the time – they’re great. But you get some bad luck in a few times in a row and you lose 1/4th of your army, which often leads to losing the game and being out of the tournament. If you lose in a team tournament, however, your team can still win anyway – so you wouldn’t be eliminated.
It’s cool bro, don’t gotta lie to kick it.
Embrace the dark side and let your hatred for Morty and Magnus floooooow! =P
I actually remember my original post. It was about how big mosters have to be on the power level of Magnus and Mortarion to work. Which somehow translated in your head into “Magnus and Mortarion suck” D:
Seriously, Greater Daemons are forgeworld level bad balance wise. They were buffed and they are still nowhere to be seen.
It’s cool, you just have all big models. Embrace the hatred!! =P
Greater Daemons are painfully bad.
I loved playing mine against pre-nerf hive tyrants. Pay 100 pts less and get a better unit? Seems good.
I really feel greater daemons (including Avatars of Khaine) should have 4+ invulnerable saves like they did back in 3rd edition. They’re just so easy to hurt and don’t have the character keyword, yet you have Captains running/jumping/flying around with easy access to 3+ invulnerable saves.
Only in 8th ed this meme works like this:
https://image.ibb.co/bGeqap/image.png
Well, even think of it this way. A fully decked out Lord of Change costs almost as much as a Gallant.
Except it’s T17. 16w. It can cast a whole terrifying 2 psychic powers (of which most aren’t very good) and attack with it’s devastating 4 S6 attacks.
Meanwhile a Gallant is T8, 24W, running around casually kicking things to death.
My daemons weep. Lol.
I think the root cause is Monstrous Creatures, in general, were not translated well in 8th edition. Hive Tyrants were an edge case because they were point efficient with good shooting, mobility, and a 4++.
With your average d6 anti-vehicle attack causing 3.5 damage for each unsaved wound, your W12 MC really has 4 wounds. Where in prior editions they were around 6W.
In particular for Chaos Daemons because of the more horde style of the army with little or no big units. Greater Daemons are easy to focus because there isn’t a lot of targets for your opponent’s anti-tank shooting. Which makes Daemon Princes more attractive pick for the better aura ability and they cannot be character sniped.
We’ve had good mileage out of the GUO. The others do struggle a bit, I agree.
Frankie spotted https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/09/9th-aug-introducing-the-all-star-nova-warhammer-live-teamgw-homepage-post-3/
Nice!
Caaaan we have the new missions, liiiiike, now? I have some games this weekend, would love to playtest! 😀 😀 😀 😀