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The Celestial Orrery
8th Edition Necron Primer Series
Celestial Orrery articles:
- A Codex Necrons Tactical Primer (Unit Buffs)
- Necron Thunderdome: Lychguard vs. Triarch Praetorians
- Dynasty Overview – Nephrekh
- Dynasty Overview – Novokh
- Dynasty Overview – Mephrit
- Dynasty Overview – Nihilakh
- Dynasty Overview – Sautekh
Today we take a break from your regularly scheduled programming, unedited and commercial free! Introducing:
The Necron Thunderdome – Part 1
Two units enter, one unit leaves . . .
You just purchased your discounted Lychguard / Triarch Praetorians wombo-combo box from FLG and can’t decide – jetpacks or gladiator shields?
Fellow Necrons, you have come to the right place.
Let’s jump straight into it. Lychguard and Triarch Praetorians are quite similar and we need to delve into the seemingly minute differences so we know when to bring one or the other in our lists.
Let the (comparing & contrasting) Games Begin!
Statline
What’s the difference between Lychguard and Triarch Praetorians? Five inches and four syllables.
Ok, well that wasn’t very insightful. Clearly, both have very robust statlines. Both are resilient to infantry and small-arms fire. Most infantry wound them on a 5+, they have a solid 3+ save and with two wounds each, they take more wounds to kill than their 32mm bases would otherwise indicate. Each unit starts with 5 models, and can be bolstered to include up to 5 additional models.
Both are quite adept at dishing out pain with respectable 3+s for both shooting and melee and with native Strength 5 and 2 attacks. But we’re obviously not distinguishing them from each other at this phase, other than we know Praetorians are natively twice as fast as Lychguard.
We’ll start moving along then – there must be a points difference, right?
Point Cost
Both Lychguard and Praetorians have two flavors depending on which wargear options you select. Note that for both units, “the entire unit” may replace their stock weapons with the alternative, so there is no mixing and matching within a single unit.
Lychguard
- Warscythes: +2 S, -4 AP, 2D = 30 points each
- Hyperphase swords & dispersion shields: +1S, -3 AP, 1D = 34 points each
Praetorians
- Rod of Covenant (“RoC”): -3 AP, 1D = 32 points each
- Voidblade & particle casters (“VbPC”): -3 AP, 1D, +1A = 32 points each
- +1 S6, AP 0 D1 PC shot
Notably similar, eh? The saying goes that “clothes make the man,” but we’re obviously dealing with gender neutral, “living” robots so we’ll pretend the saying doesn’t apply and carry on now that we’ve established that each unit will cost approximately the same points.
- x5 Lychguard with Warscythes: 150 points —– x10 man unit = 300 points
- x5 Lychguard with HS & DSs: 170 points —– x10 man unit = 340 points
- x5 Praetorians with RoC: 160 points —– x10 man unit = 320 points
- x5 Praetorians with VB&PC: 160 points —– x10 man unit = 320 points
Ladies and gentleman, that is it! We’ve now gone over the difference in statline, wargear, and point costs! The only differences we have left to explore are the ramifications of the different weapons (we didn’t discuss the ranged attacks above), the abilities, faction keywords, and keywords.
Abilities
Lychguard
Triarch Praetorians
Not too much to discuss here either but there are a couple notable differences.
Praetorians automatically pass Morale tests – but since Necrons all have leadership 10, this ability only comes into play in the Morale Phase when the unit has lost more than 4 models. Essentially, A Purpose Unshakeable only matters if the Praetorian unit has 6 to 10 models. Even if the unit has 6-10 models, it is then only useful if the unit loses 5 or more models in a single turn. While seemingly niche in its application, when this ability is combined with Reanimation Protocols (“RP”), it becomes moderately useful to absolutely force your opponent to kill the unit to the last man, otherwise they will auto-pass their morale test and start reanimating at two wounds per base!
Lychguard also only have one unique ability – Guardian Protocols (dispersion shields simply give a 4+ invulnerable save – useful for obvious reasons). This ability allows Lychguard to take wounds for a friendly character within 3” that is in the same Dynasty. It is fairly consistent, triggering on a 2+, and it allows the wounds to be absorbed by Lychguard after the attack has already hit, wounded, and gotten through the character’s save. A cool nuance is that this ability does not specify shooting attacks, so it is not limited to “Miiiissstterrrrr Prreeessssideeeennnttttt” applications – it can protect a character even while it goes weed-whacking with a warscythe, voidscythe or blood scythe. Some of the coolest uses of this rule will likely result from a beefed-up Catacomb Command Barge or Destroyer Lord gaining an effective +10-20 wounds. The tricky part will be finding a way to have your Lychguard keep pace with these faster characters (Veil of Darkness or Night Scythes could be good options to get the Lychguard close to their liege).
We finally get to see some differences taking shape! Praetorians are faster and stick around to the last man with their unshakable resolve whilst Lychguard are slower, 5-inch trudgers who can protect our characters from being sniped or taken down with an errant attack. But the most important differences can be found in the Faction Keywords and Keywords.
Faction Keywords & Keywords
Lychguard
Triarch Praetorians
My fellow Crypteks and Overlords, we’ve made it to the homestretch and we are finally getting to the good stuff. Obviously they’re both Necrons (yay! We can take them in our armies!), and they are also both Infantry (which is a very good thing since it means they can be buffed by any Infantry restricted abilities as long as they match the other keyword requirements). But the differences here are . . . shall we say . . . key. . . .
Lychguard have the coveted <Dynasty> faction keyword. This is a huge deal which should not be understated because it means Lychguard get access to some of our best faction-wide buffs. My Will Be Done, The Lord’s Will, Transient Madness, Technomancer, Chronometron, Ghostwalk Mantle, Eternity Gate, Invasion Beams, Death Incarnate, Resurrection Orbs and The Veil of Darkness is just a short list of buffs and abilities Lychguard gain access to because they are <Dynasty>.
Having a <Dynasty> also means that Lychguard benefit from Dynastic Codes, the most notable of which include Novokhs: Awakened by Murder & Nephrekhs: Translocation Beams:
You know what they always say – it pays to have friends – and with the <Dynasty> keyword, this has never been truer for Lychguard.
Imagine if the Lychguard Ability section read “re-roll failed hit rolls in the Fight phase if Lychguard charged or were charged.” It essentially does when you take your unit of Lychguard in a Novokh detachment. Remember that horrendously small, slow and completely average five inches we laughed at a few paragraphs & pictures ago? If your Lychguard are in a Nephrek detachment, they get a sweet sweet 6-7” advance, through terrain and models, every turn they feel the need! While this dynasty code unfortunately does not increase Lychguard charge threat ranges, it does help them get closer to combat and objectives more quickly if you weren’t able to make space in your list for Lychguard transportation.
The only thing Praetorians have going for them while they miss out on all the <Dynasty> fun is their Fly keyword, which turns out to be pretty darn useful – especially with a 10” movement speed. Take a look at how useful the Fly keyword is in these definitely-not-homemade images:
Unit Specific & Dynasty Specific Stratagems
Those keywords we discussed above have even greater implications than just access to buffs and high-fives from friends. The lack of <Dynasty> on Praetorians means that certain dynasty specific stratagems cannot be used on them, the most notable of which include:
Nephrekh Lychguard can essentially deep strike or be deployed via Translocation Crypt and try to get a cheeky charge, whilst Praetorians cannot. Clocking in at a whopping 3CP, Blood Rites is mighty expensive but it is also absurdly powerful – it essentially doubles the damage output of a unit of Lychguard/Novokh unit since it lets them fight twice. Once again, Praetorians left in the dust to moodily brood and plot their revenge. “We don’t need friends . . . you’ll see. . . .”
Importantly, both Lychguard and Triarch Praetorians have access to their own fancy, unit specific Strategems – which once again helps set them apart from each other.
Lychguard only get access to their special-sauce if they bring dispersion shields – but if and when they do, they get access to a pretty interesting stratagem in the form of Dispersion Field Amplification. Increasing their invulnerable save to 3+ and kicking back the occasional mortal wound makes dispersion shield Lychguard extremely survivable and potentially deters units (especially those with bulk, small-arms fire) from attacking them.
Triarch Praetorians get to effectively increase their BS or WS by 1 for a single shooting or fight phase through use of Judgment of the Triarch (“JoT”). Not the greatest, but I view this as a 1CP MWBD that you can use when the Praetorians are out on the battle-field doing their “lone wolf” and “wolfpack of one” thing. Even though it doesn’t help them get off a charge (like MWBD does), this is still a nice tool to have in the toolbox for a round where you know your Praetorians need to hit with their attacks.
And don’t forget a great stratagem they both get access to – it can help them work through a unit, Vehicle or higher toughness Monster in a pinch:
Damage Output & Survivability
Mathhammer time
We’ll take a look at the difference between the two wargear loadouts for each Lychguard & Praetorians, then see which one leaves the ‘dome standing. There will be 5 models in each unit with an assumption that the numbers can easily be doubled for 10 model units (although fitting in bases so all models get their attacks can be a logistical reality that slightly lowers a 10 model unit’s output).
There will be some general damage output tables so you can see each unit’s effectiveness against a particular targets’ Toughness and save, but for getting a standard and easy to digest baseline, we’ll use everyone’s favorite punching bag. Not a good marine, not a great marine, but a bog standard Ultramarine! Remember that these numbers are just averages – half the time the unit will deal more wounds, half the time the unit will deal less wounds.
Enemy: T4, 3+ save
MWBD = My Will Be Done (buff from an Overlord, Catacomb Command Barge (equivalent of Wave of Command) or Character)
Lychguard
x5 Lychguard with Warscythes: 150 points
Standard
- 10 attacks – WS 3+, S 7, -4 AP, 2D
- 10 * (.667) * (.667) * 2 = 8.90 Wounds = ~4.5 dead tac. marines
MWBD
- 10 attacks – *WS 2+, S 7, -4 AP, 2D
- 10 * (.833) * (.667) * 2 = 11.11 Wounds = ~5.5 dead tac. marines
Novokh
- 10 attacks – *WS 3+ w/re-roll, S 7, -4 AP, 2D
- 10 *((.667)+(.667*.333)) *(.667) * 2 = 11.86 Wounds = ~5.9 dead tac. marines
MWBD & Novokh
- 10 attacks – *WS 2+ w/re-roll, S 7, -4 AP, 2D
- 10 * ((.833)+(.833*.167)) * (.667) * 2 = 12.97 Wounds = ~6.5 dead tac. marines
x5 Lychguard with Hyperphase swords & dispersion shields (“HSDS”): 170 points
Standard
- 10 attacks – WS 3+, S 6, -3 AP, 1D
- 10 * (.667) * (.667) * 1 *(.833) = 3.71 Wounds = ~3.7 dead tac. marines
MWBD
- 10 attacks – *WS 2+, S 7, -4 AP, 2D
- 10 * (.833) * (.667) * 1 *(.833) = 4.63 Wounds = ~4.6 dead tac. marines
Novokh
- 10 attacks – *WS 3+ w/re-roll, S 7, -4 AP, 2D
- 10 *((.667)+(.667*.333)) *(.667) * 1 *(.833) = 4.94 Wounds = ~5 dead tac. marines
MWBD & Novokh
- 10 attacks – *WS 2+ w/re-roll, S 7, -4 AP, 2D
- 10 * ((.833)+(.833*.167)) * (.667) * 1 *(.833) = 5.40 Wounds = ~5.4 dead tac. marines
Not rocket science here folks – but it is nice to have the numbers laid out for us. Clearly, the Scythguard deal a little over twice the number of wounds, but notably not twice as many killed models when the target only has 1W per model – the 2D warscythes’ damage doesn’t “spill over”.
For all intents and purposes the HSDS deals less damage due to having one less AP, one less strength, and one less damage per hit – but we knew this would be the case because the reason for taking the HSDS was for the 4+ invulnerable save provided by the dispersion shield. Internally, warscythe is clearly preferable strictly in terms of damage output – but the HSDS provides some much needed survivability that could more than make up for the 4 point per model price increase.
What’s the takeaway here? Scythguard deal incredible amounts of damage to things lower than Toughness 7 (or lower than T8 if we use the Disruption Fields stratagem) – possibly the best in-codex for the points, especially if they are being buffed. But they stand little chance of being able to walk up and inflict this amount of pain on anything, as without an invulnerable save, they are juicy targets for low AP, 2+ damage weapons. They probably need assistance to get where they are going, whereas HSDS Lychguard can probably hoof it if need be (although this is obviously not optimal, as they are slow).
Scytheguard – Standard Table: x5, WS3, A2, S7, AP-4, D2 – Average wounds
HS&DS Lychguard – Standard Table: x5, WS3, A2, S6, AP-3, D1 – Average wounds
Triarch Praetorians
Praetorians are a little more complex than Lychguard because they bring some of their firepower to bear in the shooting phase. This means they are more flexible because if they fail a charge, they at least got some of their attacks off, but it also means their damage is a little less reliable, as there are usually more defensive abilities that reduce accuracy or damage from shooting attacks, like being in cover. However, for the sake of averages, we’ll just assume we’re not dealing with a pesky minus-1-to-hit-from-shooting buff or cover saves, and we’ll simply throw the shooting attacks into the mix with the melee attacks, knowing that the potential downsides of shooting attacks are at least partially negated by the flexibility of getting shots off when melee is otherwise not possible.
Voidblades are nice in that they grant Praetorians +1 attack in melee – so each praetorian will have 3 attacks in melee at the same strength, AP and damage as if they were shooting with their assault 1 Rods of Covenant. Essentially, Praetorians with VbPC have the same overall damage output in one shooting phase & fight phase as RoC Praetorians on the charge do, but they have an extra bonus pistol attack from the particle caster each turn regardless of whether they are stuck in melee. With the RoC, the Praetorians have to leave combat in order to get their RoC shooting attack – not a big deal since they have Fly and can shoot in a turn they fall back, but still worth noting. Note that Praetorians cannot fall back, shoot, and then charge – when a model falls back, it cannot then charge unless it has a special rule allowing it to do so. This means that the pseudo-“third” S5, -3AP, 1D attack from shooting the RoC will not be useable when a unit of RoC Praetorians are locked in a combat. Yes, they can simply fly away and still shoot, but they won’t be able to then charge back in that same turn.
To put it simply, RoC Praetorians are good for running-and-gunning or flybys where they fly up, shoot, charge in, and bring the enemy squad down to only a couple of models left (or they un-ideally kill the whole squad and 100% get shot up). The hope is that in two fight phases, they have either killed the squad they have charged or their target squad ran away. RoC Praetorians do not want to be locked in combat where they can’t make use of both their RoC shot and their melee attacks. They want to be moving from enemy unit to enemy unit, shooting off their RoC then charging into melee every turn when possible. Now of course Praetorians cannot really be locked in combat, because they can fall back and still shoot thanks to Fly, but since the bulk (2/3rds) of RoC Praetorians’ damage output is in the form of melee attacks, falling back is a bad option for them as it essentially wastes a turn of their melee attacks (the same holds true for VbPC Praetorians, but they don’t mind sitting in combat and slashing/shooting away with their full firepower each turn).
Voidblade & Particle Caster Praetorians, on the other hand, are better at cutting their way through chaff/screening units since they will have their extra pistol attack, and even when they are locked in combat, they have access to all three of their S5, -3AP, 1D attacks in addition to their free pistol shot.
x5 Praetorians with RoC: 160 points
Standard
- 10 melee attacks + 5 shooting – WS/BS 3+, S5, -3 AP, 1D
- 15 * (.667) * (.667) * 1 * (.833) = 5.56 Wounds = ~5.6 dead tac. marines
MWBD or JoT
- 10 melee attacks + 5 shooting – *WS/BS 2+, S5, -3 AP, 1D
- 15 * (.833) * (.667) * 1 * (.833) = 6.94 Wounds = ~7 dead tac. marines
x5 Praetorians with VbPC: 160 points
Standard
- 15 melee attacks– WS/BS 3+, S5, -3 AP, 1D
- 15 * (.667) * (.667) * 1 * (.833) = 5.56 Wounds = ~5.6 dead tac. marines
- + 5 PC shooting attacks – BS 3+, S6, 0AP, 1D
- 5 * (.667) * (.667) * 1 * (.333) = .741 Wounds = +~.75 dead
MWBD or JoT (note JoT cannot apply to both the melee & PC shooting attacks)
- 15 melee attacks– *WS/BS 2+, S5, -3 AP, 1D
- 15 * (.833) * (.667) * 1 * (.833) = 6.94 Wounds = ~7 dead tac. marines
- + 5 PC shooting attacks – BS 3+, S6, 0AP, 1D
- 5 * (.667) * (.667) * 1 * (.333) = .741 Wounds = +~.75 dead
What we see here is that the Praetorians essentially have an extra attack or two over Lychguard as well as the flexibility of one of those attacks coming from the shooting phase. But the tradeoff is Praetorians have extremely narrow access to MWBD (only available from Anrakyr & Imotekh (but watch for an Errata on this)), and they don’t have access to dynasty codes or other dynasty specific buffs or stratagems – both defensively and offensively.
Praetorians, on the charge, perform similarly whether they have RoC or VbPC, with the VbPC pulling out a clear edge in terms of overall damage output. This is especially the case when Praetorians get locked in combat, as the RoC wielding unit will lose on out one of their attacks whereas the VbPC unit will still have all 3 high powered attacks and their 4th pistol shot. They clock in at 5.56 – 6.30 wounds.
Lychguard are more varied – when equipped with warscythes, and even with no buffs, they output an impressive 8.90 wounds, but this still results in less dead 1W models (4.5 vs. the Praetorians ~5.5). Scythguard are better against multi-wound, higher Toughness targets, but the Praetorians can dish out a lot more attacks. When equipped with Hyperphase swords & dispersion shields, the Lychguards damage output greatly wanes to an unimpressive 3.71 standard wounds, and still a somewhat lacking 4.63 or 4.94 wounds when using MWBD or the Novokh dynasty code, respectively. However, even though they won’t be killing more than 3-5 marines on average per fight phase, Lychguard become extremely tough to remove with dispersion shields as they get a nice 4+ invulnerable save to protect their T5, 2W frames in addition to access to a stratagem to super charge their shields and get the save to a 3++. But remember, Lychguard have access to our whole factions-worth of buffs and synergy, the most important of which is movement-shenanigans to help get our Lychguard into combat ASAP.
RoC Praetorians – Standard Table: x5, WS/BS3, A“3”, S5, AP-3, D1 – Average wounds
Particle Caster – Standard Table: x5, BS3, 1 shot, S6, AP0, D1 – Average wounds
Summary & Conclusion
And the winner is? PVbPC Triarch Praetorians tied with Scytheguard if you dedicate the resources to transporting them.
SURPRISE!
They all fill a slightly different niche, so they are ALL WINNERS! Yayyyy!
Except Rod of Covenant Triarch Praetorians . . . they are probably the losers here. Which is a true shame, as the RoC is the most iconic wargear option and the look of the models with RoCs is probably what drew people to Praetorians in the first place. Their biggest downfall is that they excel in situations where you are arguably misusing the Praetorians. If you end up unable to charge them in yes – having x5 RoC shots is better than x5 PC shots, but the unit really should be abusing its mobility to get close and make charges. RoC Praetorians are best when you can for sure wipe out the target unit – but the problem is that if the RoC unit can kill off the [insert squishy or small target unit here], so can the Vb & PC Praetorians – as they will have the same damage output plus a little more from the pistols, and VbPC units take the JoT buff better.
I would argue that Voidblade and Particle Caster Triarch Praetorians get the most bang for your buck with 160 points for 5, or 320 points for 10. They can get to where they need to go without expensive investments from the rest of your army (no need for Veil of Darkness, transports or stratagems) and they can take on the largest variety of enemies. They deal very respectable damage output to heavily armored foes via their three AP-3 attacks and they maintain their 4 attacks in every fight phase, making them great for mulching through screening infantry if they have to.
Warscythe Lychguard get the award for highest overall damage output by a long shot, and are without a doubt the best pick to take down multi-wound, high toughness/low save enemies. The issue is you will likely need to dedicate additional resources to getting your warscythe Lychguard into their ideal targets without allowing them to take too much of a beating first.
Hyperphase sword and Dispersion Shield Lychguard are by far the most survivable of all the options, and can still rip holes in enemy elite units while shrugging off high AP return fire. Once again, you need to get them into their chosen targets somehow, but then the thorn in your opponent’s side only becomes more painful when you crank their Invulns. up to 3+ and start dishing out mortal wounds through their stratagem.
In a melee-focused Necron army (i.e. Novokh detatchment with a dedicated HQ to help buff/transport), Lychguard are the clear choice. But if you don’t have a Novokh or Nephrekh detachment, or your HQ choices are too busy to invest their relic, aura/buffs or your CP is in too short supply to dedicate to helping out your Lychguard, I would take Vb&PC Praetorians in a heartbeat.
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