GW has been revealing some awesome info on the Adeptus Custodes. What do you think so far?
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needs a non-ugly dreadnought though
I actually kind of dig the Custodes dread, as goofy as it looks, haha
no, just no
hopefully FW will give their dreads rules, or GW has more stuff up their sleeve, either or
Also, I think the people disliking the Custodes are far from a majority.
It is a vocal minority.
Of course they are a minority they’re the Xenos players waiting for their codex. If they were a majority GW would be prioritising them. Yes the custodes release must have been planned ages ago, I’ve heard they made a lot of of money on the talons boxset. Yes there are more imperium players, but GW have manufactured that situation. It would have been nice if GW had done Imperium, Chaos, Xenos. But GW has released lots of power armour armies because in essence they’re the same army so they could get lots of them out in quick succession. None of that makes the Xenos players missing their codexs feel better. I’m just lucky one of my armies is Tyranids
I don’t like them. Not just because they’re a not needed release, but because I just don’t like any aspect of them.
Gaming concept wise, they’re the old “new emperor’s finest faction”, like grey knights and imperial knights were at their times. Rules wise, they’re slightly different assault centurions, with more rules.
Model wise, they’re more medieval power armor we’ve got a lot, like black templars, grey knights, deathwing knights and sanguinary guard. Not saying the models are ulgy, but they don’t bring nothing new, and they’re pretty similar to aos sigmarines. I like the jetbikes, tho.
Fluff wise, they’re marysues among marysues, the most powerful, yet not as heroic as other imperial troops. Those demigods loafing at terra for ten thousand years who could end wars in a moment, but prefer to stay warding a vegetable-man while millions of humans die every minute.
Like the look of the models and planning on ordering some. Like the look of the information they have shown so far army wide 4++ looks great and having ob sec on everything should help to make them competitive in an objective game. Or at least not hamstrung.
Not sold on the swooping dive stratagem. Think 3 cps is too much for a charge that you could still fail quite easily anyway. Also the unit sizes are likely to be small minimising the benefit. Not sure why you would ever use the flakburst missile either. Melts one seems a lot more reliable. Unless you are shooting at gargoyles. Can’t wait for the book though
Kinda miffed about The Emperor’s Chosen. I was hoping that would be the Thousand Sons legion trait…
They already released the thousand legion trait on Warhammer live, it’s plus 6 inches to the range of their psychic powers
Warhammer live already released the Thousand Sons legion trait. It’s add 6 inches to the range of their psychic powers
I posted that before the Warhammer Live stream. :p
6″ range on psychic powers is pretty good, though I’m hoping the rumors are true that it’s half of a two-parter trait.
Really hoping we see FW give them rules asap.
After a skim through, they seem interesting. Although a ven LR is probably going to be in the 400+ range (ouch) Im only seeing higher T and str stand out. A 24” melta is still just a medium range gun so looking forward to more info. Ive always loved the models but was not expecting a new 40k army, before the rest that need a codex at least. Do you think they will mix well with Gray knights or is it a mono based army?
I actually really love those bikes. Like maybe they’ll be a nice conversion for a heretic custodes army. Just sayin 🙂
Not planning on starting a custodes army myself, but will definitely pick up the amazing Captain-General model.
Being a low model count army, Im very tempted to scrap my nurgle army plans for a small army of the custodes, just because Venerable Land Raiders will be awesome to play for fun with.
Wisdom of the Ancients, deepstriking, and ObSec by another name are all stuff we’ve seen everywhere before. The biker stratagem is expensive but deadly.
Mostly though I’m still salty that GW decided they needed to release Custodes and TSons before any of the xenos factions (eldar and nids not withstanding).
Low model count army will never be played as a whole army points too dam high cost
So at first I thought they went overboard with thier rules, but now looking at the points per model and overall model count they need everything they can get. I certainly see them being powerful, but I’m not how great they will be outside of soup lists in standalone armies.
Where dem costs at
Well, you can start with the Index. Basic trooper with no upgrades is 52 pts.
I’m impressed with the Bikes.
36 Hurricane Bolters shots at BS2+, 12 Lance attacks on the Charge at WS2+, and that’s just for 3 Guys without a Captain.
I’m really curious as to how this army will perform. T5 and what amounts to an army-wide 4++ (3++ on terminators) is interesting. They’ll be starved for CPs.. but basically look like what Grey Knights SHOULD be.
I’m debating getting a few for an allied patrol/aux detatchment for my ad mech and popping the strategum to break them up into individual units. A bunch of single dudes rocking a 4++/2+ T5 with 3W each hiding behind LoS to act as a counter-charge element is fluffy and MIGHT be effective.
Their terminators aren’t 3++. They’re still just 4++.
“But they’re terminators!” Is the normal response, and you’d be right, but GW gave all Custodes the same exact save. Terminators have +1W and can deep strike.
Oh. Blech. Good catch. That’s disappointing.
Yep. Luckily, Bikes are only a small amount more than them with more than double the movement and many, many more shots.
Is Trajan in termie armor and able to DS?
Doubt it (based on the model), but he could come in via the “From Golden Light They Come” Strategem.
Please do a TS vs Custodes BR as soon as you guys are allowed to. Very curious how the Custodes play competively, and what better way than to take on Magnus head on?
Warhammer TV did exactly this and the Thousand Sons won handily.
To be fair, both lists were kind of meme lists I’d expect to see a child hobble together, not exactly optimized choices.
Not surprising. I imagine they’re terribly vulnerable to smite spam, even if it’s been nerfed.
The bikers seem brutal. Im tempted to do a combo of AM leman russes and Custodes bike spam. Low model count with a screen of conscripts and that relic I could probably squueze into 2-3 detachments
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