Signals from the Frontline #476

11 thoughts on “Signals from the Frontline #476”

1. In regards to the GW FAQ, do you guys plan on adding whole ham or parts of it?

   For example, will you be voting on the dedicated transport/battle brothers change, or is that set in stone ?

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2. How about requiring a minimum number of units in a codex to qualify for the ITC. Pick the codex with the fewest units entries you already count to establish the minimum required.

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3. laughing so hard at the building work almost messed up my painting 🙂

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4. Sisters and custodes 40k rules https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Burning%20of%20Prospero%20Imperial%20Datasheets.pdf

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   1. So they’re Elites choices, and one of the Armies of the Imperium… but which one? Can you just slot them into any Imperial army, or do they have a special detachment like Assassins? Weird.

      15pts/model for the Sisters is a complete steal, though. A mix of Flamers and Greatblades makes them a force to be reckoned with.

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      1. Or you could give them bolters…. bwhahahah!:P

         on a slightly weirder note though.
         the custodes don’t have relentless so can’t fire bolters and assault their best strength is 6 as well, so just throw an av13 walker at them if you can.

         they could be a fairly nasty death star though. all characters, +1 attack to everyone in the unit 2 wounds and eternal warrior each.

         don’t want to put a terminator armoured guy with them though it’d be a shame to lose sweeping advance.

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5. They each have their own faction symbols, and therefore may not be taken in any normal detachments at this time.

   However, you can use them in unbound

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   1. We can use them in unbound??!?! Weeee!!!

      Seriously, who actually plays unbound? I would estimate maybe 5% of the community actually uses unbound rules on a regular basis.

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      1. Well, given it’s the only way to play those Sisters of Silence and Custodes I’m guessing a few more people then before come next weekend 😉

         Seriously though I’m hoping for AoS Mathced play style army building and alliances for 40K 8th, so much easier to have these mini factions and small releases.

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6. re: Kill Team and the ITC.

   Kill Team is a different game than 40K. It is a game with flawed mechanics and Army Comp that is so easily exploitable as to make it non-competitive. It should definitely not be considered for ITC points.

   HOWEVER. A limit on the number of points either small or large on what events are allowed to be ITC events isn’t a good way to go. I’ve participated in more than 25 40K tournaments this year. Only 6 of them used the ITC army comp, missions, and FAQ. I’ve been to events with better and worse army comp and better and worse missions. The ITC FAQ is still the best I’ve seen, but my point is these events are different formats that have different paths to victory. They are not apples to apples.

   My top ITC score comes from an Oldhammer event. Oldhammer is a format that shifts the balance strongly in favor of armies that typically don’t do well in the ITC like Orks, Tyranids, and IG. I’ve been to events where kill points were the primary in every mission (sloberknocker GT). I’ve been to events where progressive missions are king (Midwest Conquest). I’ve been to events that allowed Titans of any sort. I’ve been to events where super heavies were banned. All of these events were eligible for ITC points. All of these events are different and reward different playstyles, armies, and tactics.

   Our next event in Wichita is a Combat Patrol Event. Combat Patrol is 400 points with certain restrictions. Is is the ideal size for an entry level 40K tournament, and all of my experience with Combat Patrol (including 5 tournaments this year) have shown it to be a competitive game that rewards good tactical play, and because the meta is less stale, and events tend to have more rounds the winner is someone who has demonstrated himself a superior 40K player.

   The ITC should definitely embrace smaller point events if they are going to embrace alternative formats. If you want to remove the modifiers for consecutive wins, and number of rounds, then fine, but don’t shut out TO’s that are trying to build their community. And don’t conflate smaller point games with Kill Team.

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   1. For what it is worth, with or without ITC support we will be moving forward with our Escalating format. Our goal is to add scalability to 40K.

      Level 1 is 400 points
      Level 2 is 1,000 points each player (2 vs 2 teams)
      Level 3 is 1,500 points
      Level 4 is 2,000 points
      Level 5 is 2,500 points

      Each level contains appropriate restrictions and army comp to facilitate fun, interesting, and tactical games. Each level has a clear way to step up to the next level.

      Full details can be found here:
      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e-aQqVAb_JitTuZtO4KlsmbgCw5rkdXotBZF-PXHL-I/edit?usp=sharing

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