In this episode Jason, Pablo, and Brandon go over the new Age of Sigmar upcoming releases and take an in depth look at the Death Alliance.
Show Notes
8-31-16
Intro – Jason, Pablo, and Brandon
- What have we been working on this past week?
News
- New White Dwarf format in September that will feature the upcoming Age of Sigmar game, Gorechosen, and will include a free Slaughterpriest model with purchase.
- Will also feature rules for Grombrindal, the White Dwarf, so that he can be used in games of AoS.
- Gorechosen will be a gladiatorial style game featuring 4 champions of khorne duking it out to be the most worthy of Khorne. Game will come with an Exalted Deathbringer, Skullgrinder, Slaughterpriest, and Aspiring Deathbringer. Each fighter will have their own stat cards and the game will be both die and card based. Likely release date is mid-Sepember.
Main Topic – The Death Realm and it’s Denizens in the Age of Sigmar
- The Realm of Shyish is the Realm of Death. It’s an endless land of decay and all the gateways to the underworld are in this realm.
- Nagash is the ruler of the realm and is the god of death, making him supremely powerful.
- Nagash was at first an ally to Sigar and his grand alliance but turned on Sigmar’s forces at the battle of the Allpoints.
- During the Age of Chaos, Archaon and the Chaos forces defeated Nagash. He returned and threw the Chaos forces out of the realm.
- Nagash is essentially immortal and has lived for aeons. His ultimate goal is to end all life in the realms and claim control over all.
- In game, the Death alliance is made up of several factions.
- Deathlords
- Soulblight
- Nighthaunt
- Deadwalkers
- Deathrattles
- Deathmages
- Flesh Eater Courts
Hi guys, really excited to hear the podcast and I’m loving the content!
Couple of things you may find interesting:
-while Nagash is accused of sigmar’s betrayal in the first large book, more recent black library books make it seem like Mannfred is being hunted as the betrayer by Nagash. This goes along with his role in the end times as well when mannfred struck a blow for chaos in the end.Mannfred wants to be on the winning team 🙂
-Nagash does indeed have to pay full points for anything he summons, even with his double sized units ability. You pay points For the unit you put on the board. I think the clarifaction you referenced was about adding models to an existing unit, which is totally free. This means FEC are attrition monsters while summoning hordes can be a points heavy endeavour. It’s true, Nagash was somewhat hit hard by the new rules.
-Dantes Inferno is a fairly good idea of how the realms work. We see in the narratives about the realm of life (the scene where they find alarielle) that there are “pocket dimensions” within the realms. Alarielle was in the realm of life, but tucked away in a smaller space of it. It stands to reason that Nagash could have the same. Also it leaves open a way to write people groups that have survived the age of chaos without sigmar’s help (and might even be resentful of him for abandoning them).
Great show guys 😉 keep it up!
Loved the episode 🙂
When it comes to Nagash, I would agree with Jason that the extra models through his ability don’t count towards points, as that is his schtick. For tournaments, I would think that they might have to restrict which models he can “double”, like not doubling heroes and monsters, or Morghasts, etc. It’s a tricky thing to work around for some balance/time.
One quick thing I wanted to point out because it was brought up in the podcast, any models that have a Save of ‘-‘ cannot gain a save from bonuses, like Mystic Shield or Cover. Just pointing it out so there’s no confusion (but if that’s how you house-rule it, go nuts!)
extra models through is ability shouldn’t* count
While I may agree with that As an opinion, sadly, there are no rules or FAQ to support it :/
I disagree, leave the free points in 40k! It’s doing wonders there. 😉
Haha! Personally, I love the new rules. They changed things up for death but it’s healthy for the game.
I’m torn; I’d rather not get the free points train going in AoS, cuz like you said, it’s one of the things that’s fucking up 40k.
But Nagash got hit pretty hard by the Rule of One, and like they said, if anyone can do that, the Supreme Lord of the Dead can.
Thanks for the podcast. I do enjoy the hobby talk, it helps me with my own motivation.
So onto a correction.
As far as I know you do not have to allocate your reinforcement points to specific units. Also Nagash’s ability is not effecting an existing unit so it’s unlikely that he gets the free points. He’s just able to raise larger units.
Hey guys, great episode, just a couple notes!
Grombrindal is sadly an old miniature, repainted with a white beard, only the packaging is limited edition.
Reserve points can be spent to summon any unit, you do not need to declare what they are before the game, you only need to designate how many points are in your pool before the game. From there you’re free to summon anything you want, provided you have the points for them. (note that on the warscrolls themselves they’ll say what wizard can summon which unit, i.e. all the death units still require a death wizard).
Regarding Nagash, nothing in the FAQ or Reserve points would allow him to summon “free” points worth of stuff (ain’t nothing free in this game), so him summoning double just makes him twice as efficient at doing it. That’s actually a big deal, since you can only cast each spell once, and the amount you summon for Death is dependent on your casting roll, so even a low roll can still summon a fair amount of models. Sorry, but nobody is getting to run a 3100 point army in a 2k game, what do you think this is? 40k?
This guy gets it 😉
Nagash is how I originally thought. 🙁
These Podcasts are kicking butt – got a solid 57 minutes of painting in while listening to this one! Nice discussion!
Really loving the cast generally speaking, but I was sad to not hear any discussion of Tomb Kings.
Yeah, Tomb Kings, while not featuring in the fluff (though did see a necrosphinx in one of the books.) , are a viable part of the death faction. I really like having my general be a royal warsphinx. He’s got a special rule that halves wounds done to him plus he’s got the death alliance 2nd save. Very tanky.
Also a lich priest essentially has a dispel scroll which is very useful when playing against really powerful magic users.
I hope that eventually they revisit them.
Great stuff, but a few things wrong here, you reserve points, not specific units, which you then spend on units as you bring them in. Also when you get the ability to summon more models, either from hero abilities or rolling over a certain on the spell, you get an option to spend more points on a larger unit, so when Nagash summons zombies he can spend reserve points on a unit of 10, 20, 30 or 40. This is actually very good as you can only attempt each spell once a turn this makes Nagash’s summoning super versatile.
Also Neferata is I think one of the best heroes, her dagger is crazy good and the ability to make a unit of your choice ignore rend is super useful.
I’m happy to hear that, I like her best of all the mortarchs.
Were you guys thinking of the old Tomb Kings-esque skeleton warriors? The latest ones are by far the best skeleton models I’ve seen from anywhere.
the skeleton models are awesome, especially compared to the old ones. they are small so they actually look like an empire soldier without flesh, and if you look closely all of their robes and capes are surging forward to portray an ethereal wind pushing them forward by the will of their dark masters
Great podcast again. One thing though casting mystic shield on zombies does nothing. It was either in the FAQ or main rules but it says anything that has a save of – cannot benefit from pluses to saves since they have no save.
Good catch, it’s in the tips section of books with rules