We delve into the Sylvaneth Handbook and do our very best with summarizing some of the Lore. This podcast features Reece, Jason, and a (much louder than last time) Mariana.
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Your intrepid Podcasters are:
Reece “Reecius” Robbins
Jason “PJ Sleeze” Butler
Featuring (and edited by) Mariana “Battle Giraffe” Vera
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Love this podcast. Love it more from the mention of Michael Moorcock and Elric! You know your shit sir!
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying it, DustyK
No love for the Vampires?!
No. No, none at all you dirty Vampires!
Nice job!
I haven’t played yet but all this new direction G’dub’s taking is gonna hurt my wallet
Also, love the random initiative. Gives someone getting their ass kicked a chance at glory!
Yeah, it’s a fun game.
Hi guys, love the podcast.
In terms of the random initiative, I and my group love it. It adds suspense as well (as you point out) the ability to stage a come back … it is super important to play with the chance that you or your opponent will get a double turn upper most in your mind/strategy.
Thanks for the feedback!
The intro music reminds me of old final fantasy games and I love it
Good stuff as ever!
As for the lore recap, let’s just say close enough 😉
I’ve gone on and on about the random initiative so I won’t bore anyone any more with that, suffice to say I think once you plan for it (and it’s always possible to know when it can happen, if you’re going first you have to plan for it) I think it makes the game better. But ultimately whatever makes the game best to play for you is best.
I’ve tried a compromise with some people recently where once per game if your general is alive you can force yourself to go first in a turn if it would block a double turn, but your general can’t use a command ability, seems to work quite well.
Also worth bearing in mind that once your combat troops are in combat they attack in your enemies turn to, and their combat attacks are loads better than ranged troops combat attacks (and usually their ranged attacks to). But if I could add anything to AoS it’d be something to weaken shooting into and out of combat.
Sounds like some interesting compromises! Might have to try it, here.
In this podcast: Reece fanboys out over Syvaneth 😛
Great show guys! Keep Mariana on for sure, she adds a neat perspective to the group.
Oh, and I agree that Summoning is much better in Matched Play. It gives a lot of tactical flexibility without breaking the game imo.
Exactly, we really dig it.
Great podcast, I’m really enjoying your views on AoS and can’t wait for more.
I understand from a tournament point of view not liking the random initiative and taking it out, but I like it and really prefer to only play that way. I just feel it adds another thing you have to think about and try to plan for. Tho I also really like Bolt Actions activation method, I feel its one of the best things about the game and have even tried it in small games of 40k. I’m not a competitive player I really enjoy narrative play so prob have a dif point of view on random activation rules. IMO one of the greaat things about AoS is how easy it is to change things you don’t like and I think it was meant that way. So I say change anything aslong as both players have a good time it doesn’t matter.
I wouldn’t say AoS its more Science Fiction than Fantasy as Sci-Fi usually has some base in science or speculative science even if its super far fetched but I can’t see the scientific base for anything in AoS. I could be wrong, I usually am but I think it falls more in fantasy with the magic and other supernatural elements.
About Malekith I think he became leader because it was found that all this time after all these years of civil war he was right, and was the rightful heir of the Phoenix throne as he was Aenarions Son. There was another huge war fought between the Elves were some High, Dark, Wood elves and even Tyrions brother Teclis sided with Malekith and other High, Dark Elves and even Malekiths mother Morathi sided with Tyrion who had taken up the sword of Khiane which kinda turned him crazy. Sorry its kinda confusing and there is alot more to it. If you ever get a chance the End TImes Khaine book is pretty good and worth checking out.
Glad you’re enjoying it! We will certainly check out those End Times books.
I’m really enjoying the podcast and the positive AoS talk is really refreshing. Keep up the great work.
Will do!
Yeah I love the new summoning rules. It reigned it in without nerfing it completely. I like it’s no longer free models, but their flexibility and versatility is still there. What’s so great is you don’t have to declare what is going to be summoned in your list, so you could summon whatever you want depending on what you are facing as long as you don’t exceed those allotted points. I just see with the new summoning that it’s still powerful and useful, but fair.
I love random initiative. People who hate it, hate it for the dreaded 2 turns of shooting, but you have to think ahead tactically with buffs, target priorities, positioning etc. There have been a few occasions where I was granted 2 consecutive turns of shooting, but it didn’t do as much because my opponent had the forethought to cast mystic shield instead of arcane bolts. I have a rule of thumb for it: if you went first in a turn, play defensively. If you went second in a turn, play aggressively. I feel it should not be removed for organized play, because it also prevents the always second or always first syndrome you get in 40k.
I just think you guys need to be careful with modifying the rules. You may be used to it with 40k, but this is not 40k. Ruling to measure from bases is one thing, but stuff like shooting in combat and random initiative are core parts of the game the changes things up so much. I would just caution this stuff especially when preparing for the LVO
We aren’t planning on modifying anything, really. Jason wants to, but that is just his nature. I am enjoying the game, not really liking random initiative too much, but I do see the upsides to it.
Loving the new podcast! Bought myself some dwarfs b/c of TW:Warhammer which might have to be painted since the summer campaign looks like some legit fun. Also, considering using them as allies for the Sylvaneth with how awesome their new rules sound (Ironbark something something?).
Yeah, the Sylvaneth look amazing.
Really enjoying these – Great Podcast!
I see the logic of those who like the random initiative, my biggest issue with it is that when I played games and lost the initiative (after having won it the previous turn) is that I no longer felt like an active participant of the game.
On shooting into and out of combat, it appears that shooting units cost more points… if this is indeed fact per the new General’s book then I have no problem with it – it is certainly more dramatic and movie like.
Yeah, that was our issue, too. It felt like the double turn just dominated the game.
Just a couple of notes on the lore:
-Dracothian breathed life back into Sigmar because they have a mutual hatred against Chaos
-The main fighting between the gods during the Age of Chaos was over Slaanesh’s territory since s/he is missing
-Currently, Sigmar is trying to reunite the pantheon of gods. Teclis/Tirion are on their own schedule alongside Melorian to find the wailing souls of Aelves. Gorkamorka is just leading Waaaghs across the realms because “reasons”, Gorkamorka actually split and reform multiple times. When together, a great Waaagh! happens, but if they split, orruks fight amongst themselves. Nagash continues to be a dick and only wants to rule everything himself.
-There was a huge civil war during the Age of Chaos within Azyrheim, where Sigmar showed up in person and slew half of the citizens that rebelled. Just straight up murder.
Thanks for the update!
Absolutely loving everything AoS you guys have been doing and I really appreciate you guys (and Lady) taking the time to give the game a fair shake.
It’s quickly overtaking 40k as my favorite game to play. Still love 40k and prefer the lore in 40k but AoS has so much going for it in lore on top of the accessible rules.
You got it, buddy! And yeah, the game is super fun, we’re all loving it.
Got a chance to read through the General’s Book while at the BAO this last weekend. One thing that really caught me was the section on Narrative games, where you generate your initial army from the tables provided – looked super fluffy and cool but was also a tight set of guidelines for each faction!
Also read the Meteor Strike Battleplan, I forget if it was Narrative Battleplan or Matched Play but it looked really fun… on the second turn one meteor drops randomly onto each sides half of the table, these then become objectives which are scored on each round – can’t wait to try that one out!
Yeah, sick, right?! I love the campaign for glory too!