DevianID brings us his Tau rundown: Howdy all, with the release of the Tau update, and a week with the book to shake down some of the theory with actual game experience, I have come out of hiding from my cave in New Jersey to share my thoughts and experiences with the book. Be sure to check out the Tactics Corner for more great articles!
Now, I’m sure there are a lot of people doing similar reviews, but my style is to look at the book with a fine eye towards strictly competitive play. I am a tournament player for both the fun of competition, but also because tournaments offer a way to play several games with a group of friends all at once. This is something my crazy work schedule doesn’t allow outside of organized games set up in advance. If I were playing pickup games with my buddy, bringing a different list would no doubt be more enjoyable for both of us, but in a tournament you want a list with as few points of failure as possible.
So that out of the way, it’s good to mention that I had a refined Tau list before the book update came out that I have been playing for years. I do very well with the list, and consider it very strong versus all comers. It is this Tau list that already exists that the new Tau shall be judged on, because many people simply never understood how good the pre-hunter formation Tau were.
The old list, for completion sake, was as follows:
Tau cad
- Ethereal warlord
- Commander with pure tide, flamer, iridium, onager, hit and run, drone controller
- Riptide with ion, sms, interceptor
- 2×10 kroot
- 3 skyrays
- Void shield generator with 3 shields
Assassin
- Culexus
Fire Base Cadre
- Riptide with ion, fusion, intercept
- 3 missile broadsides with target locks, 6 marker drones
- 3 missile broadsides with target locks, 6 missile drones
This list has 12 durable marker lights, hitting on 2’s or 3’s with sky fire, lots of twin linked, lots of ignore LoS smart missiles, some ap2 ranged attacks with riptides and a huge amount of mid-range strength shots. I have 12 kill points, which is on the small side, and they are all hard to remove. The void shield shuts down grav weapons and psychic scream, I can move, run and shoot to almost full effect thanks to 12 marker lights and the ethereal, even with Broadsides, and any flyer that I can see should expect to be shot down instantly. Finally, the Culexus keeps psyker based armies honest, as a psychic melee death star that loses its buffs in front of this army simply gets removed from the table. For warlord, while the Ethereal is only t3, he has a 55% chance to roll the skyfire Tau warlord trait in games where that is important, allowing me to challenge 6 Flyrants armies more easily.
As a bonus, each Broadside unit kills 3 rhinos a turn, so with the rise of rhino based Gladius armies I can quickly de-mech them and physically block off my home objectives. Killing 8 Rhinos in a turn with shooting to spare has a great demoralizing effect for Gladius players, but that said reading the mission and understanding the end game is very important with this list, as you can’t rely on your 20 objective secured Kroot to contest every objective against Gladius and their 50 ob sec infantry.
The points of weakness of this list are versus armies that out-shoot me through a void shield, since other than the 2 riptides I don’t have counter assault elements to tie down serious shooting units. The other weakness is abilities that remove overwatch, as the list is designed to get a second shooting phase with the entire army thanks to supporting fire. Still, with proper screenings with Kroot this weakness is beatable, but if it catches you off guard, like from a hidden Ravenwing Darkshroud that flies 30 inches over to a distant assault unit when your screen is down, you are in trouble. Finally, this list is good at holding objectives at the endgame since it kills contesting units, but it is bad at scoring distant turn by turn objectives like maelstrom objectives in the opposite corners of a board. That said, maelstrom that includes objectives such as kill an enemy unit this list wins pretty handily, as my units are durable and I can shoot down almost anything. This means I don’t usually lose basic maelstrom missions unless I get unlucky with my maelstrom draws.
A side note, since the assassin is not best friends with the Tau, it’s often best to place him first and deploy the army around him, since you have to infiltrate up to 18 away from the Tau. This ensures you have a pre-measured spot to deploy him. Failing that, have him walk on the board if you literally can’t deploy him.
So all in all, this list can expect a decent chance to win versus almost anything. My recent big tournament losses were against a ravenwing darkshroud surprising me with how it takes away overwatch, a Screamerstar list where my assassin staying in reserve on turn 2 and 3 meant 2 extra turns where the chaos could box me in, and against a shooting Eldar list where my first turn somehow didn’t kill a single unit, and then saw my opponent roll 3 boxcars on his Warp Spiders to assault me back in my deployment zone, avoiding overwatch with Flicker Jump, and then assault on top of my objectives. Thus, the list had the tools to win in these games, but dice or poor generalship cost the game.
Now that we have covered the old Tau, and understand how the take all comers list works, we have a foundation to compare the changes in the new book to what we know works already. It is through the lens of our tournament list that we focus our attention to the book changes in part two.
you hit upon what I consider the core of the old tau in tournaments. Durability (void shield generators) Quality firepower, and the ally of culexus… (no other way of handling the psychic stuff really for such a cheap cost)
I am a little surprised by the min troop with an ethereal added in for your comments though.
Is you list missing a Marker drone squad? I do not see the source of 12 marker lights, just the 6 with 3 skyrays.
look at his broadsides and his skyrays. I think the marker light drones are misplaced myself.
Yeah, he’s got way too many Markerlights and not enough things to use them on. A Riptide will eat up ~5 per turn, but that aside I don’t think he has a lot of great outputs for them. The Ethereal I can kinda see (Ld10 is nice), but giving up that secondary point is a big pill to swallow when you’re already really mediocre at Maelstrom. Having a single Flamer rather than the Multispectrum Sesnor and/or Command Node is also a pretty bizarre choice.
So the 12 marker lights are super important versus invisibility. The markers on the broadsides are bs5 with the commander, shoot at a different target from the broadsides with target locks, and give the riptide the 5 hits he needs for bs6 ignore cover. As for the commander, in this list you have twin linked on broadsides already, ignore cover on smart missiles, so didnt need the CnC and MSS. Finally the Ethereal is the lynchpin of the list, as the stubborn bubble makes your riptides able to fight in cc.
I’m not sure you had the most effective list back then.
What part of NJ are you from? Nice to see someone else from the garden state posting to frontline.
Also, the list wins maelstrom by holding my objectives, and scoring lots of points on the ‘kill X units’ missions. Ironically its a really strong maelstrom list due to how many ‘kill X’ mission cards there are.
Are these the book, or ITC?
I’m assuming he’s talking book since he’s trying to over cover invis… but at the same time he has a culexus to negate invis…
Book maelstrom mostly, we play ITC rules only 5 months out of the year, usually from oct to feb. Adepticon format follows which was straight book maelstrom, then Nova format which is no maelstrom. Still, some ITC missions have half the results as kill a unit in maelstrom, and very few ITC maelstrom have more than 2 distinct objectives in your opponents deployment zone you need to worry about.
It’s still important to negate invis in ITC mind you, as the only change to shooting armies is that blasts can hit–the 36 s7 shots want better than 6s after all!
How does it deal with Leman Russes? I know they’re hardly all the rage, but the list seems pretty weak against AV14
So versus AV 14 buildings you nova the Riptides looking for s9 ordanance, one Riptide being tank hunter. Versus Leman Russes and Battlewagons, its easier to go for side shots with tank hunting s7, even if you have to run and shoot your Broadsides to do it. Versus a Land Raider that closes on your army, you need the tank hunting ripplefire fusion to get in close and melta it. Also dont forget if you need to drop that last hull point, you have 18 s8 shots in the list.