Show Notes
9-25-15
Intro
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News
- The new F.A.T. Mats are up for pre-order! Get yours in, ASAP, stock is selling quickly. Also, consider the Outrider Program if you want to earn a FREE F.A.T. Mat!
- Puppets War shows off their new mystery model, called project X!
- Kromlech has new backpacks for the Stygian Legionarys.
- The Narrative Guys just don’t quit! They’ve got some more crazy terrain projects cooking up for the LVO!
- Dropfleet commander to be entering the KickStarter phase in a month or so. Awesome!
- Mantic’s Warpath KickStarter is doing great! They hit their goal in the first day and have sailed past $200K in pledges so far. Check it out for some alternate SciFi28mm miniatures rules.
- Completed filming our first narrative form Bat Rep! It should be a ton of fun, expect to see it next Thursday, the 1st of October.
- We may not be broadcasting on Monday, September 28th, won’t know for a little while longer, unfortunately. It will be posted on the site.
- LVO update! Malifxaux tickets are live!
Upcoming ITC Events
- Michigan GT, Lansing, MI, September 25-27, 2015
- Empire Games ITC Tournament, Mesa, AZ, September 26, 2015
- Fundemonium Tournament, Rohnert Park, CA, September 27, 2015
Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.
- New rumors indicate that the HH game will actually be more complex than 40k, aimed at Veteran gamers.
- The Stormsurge Rumored to be a suit built to fight Imperial Knights and Wraithknights, cool!
- Skarbrand rumored to have the exact same rule, and only be available to Chaod Daemon armies….lame.
Rant Session
- Continued LoW in the ITC discussion.
Tactics Corner
Rules Lawyer
- We will start answering some of the rules questions that have come in through the rules submission form! You can submit your, here.
Completed Commissions
- Warlord Titan!
- Tabletop Iyanden Eldar!
List Review
++ Black Tide Skyhammer (1850pts) +++
++ Black Templars CAD ++
+ HQ +
Chaplain Grimaldus [2x Cenobyte Servitors]
+ Troops +
Crusader Squad [1x Initiate w/Power Axe+BP, 8x Initiate w/CCW+BP, 9x Neophyte w/ CCW+BP]
- ···Sword Brother [Power Sword and Bolt Pistol]
Crusader Squad [1x Initiate w/Power Axe+BP, 8x Initiate w/CCW+BP, 9x Neophyte w/ CCW+BP]
- ···Sword Brother [Power Sword and Bolt Pistol]
+ Fast Attack +
Stormtalon Gunship [Skyhammer Missile Launcher]
+ Heavy Support +
Storm Raven Gunship [Twin-Linked Lascannon, Twin-Linked Multimelta]
Skyhammer Annihilation Force Formation
Assault Squad w/Jump Packs [Space Marine w/Flamer, 8x Space Marine w/ bolt pistol and chainsword] , Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Meltabombs]
Assault Squad w/Jump Packs [Space Marine w/Flamer, 8x Space Marine w/ bolt pistol and chainsword] , Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
Devastator Squad [2x Heavy Bolter, 2x Plasma Cannon, 5x Space Marine w/Bolters] , Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
- ···Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
Devastator Squad 2x Lascannon, 2x Multimelta, 5x Space Marine w/Bolters] , Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
- ···Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
Not intended to be a completely optimized, competitive list (only using models/tactics I have since I’m a BT player), but one that lets me get some use out of Assault Marines again, I can combat squad devs & ASM as needed for maximum pinning checks/charges, ASM get a boost if they take losses via overwatch fire via BT tactics (for anything not targeted by the devs) and the formation draws attention while the Crusader squads move across the field. Still somewhat fluffy too with lots of asssulting Templars.
Awesome looking warlord. Tell Geoff to batrep his first game with it.
I agree about the tau Titan: it’s statted so that an 1850 game with it really becomes all about the Titan. The wraithknight and imperial Knights may be menacing, but they don’t become the focal point of the entire game like this and other “big” superheavies. Our couple proxy test runs of it basically came down to “couldn’t get past the surrounding 1250 tau army fast enough to neutralize the super suit that was in back on an objective, and got blown off the table by it alone. The rest of the army’s shooting wasn’t even necessary.”
I bet you wouldn’t hear even half the belly-aching about it not being allowed if it was actually costed appropriately, like say in the 1000-1200 range. XD
( I know some people legitimately just want superheavies in the game, regardless of whether it benefits them personally, but I have personally seen plenty of people that just want to ride the coat tails of undercosted models to easy victory.)
Is there anywhere to find all upcoming itc events in California for this year/ early 2016? Need to request day off at least 2 weeks in advance, or are they usually announced only same month? (Besides the big RTT)
Iirc there is a list of all ITC events over on that tab, they only announce the coming weekends event so they don’t get bogged down in the announcements
You make the AX-10 sound worse thant it is. It might get ignores cover(On a single unit) that doesnt miss(If you fire enough marker Lights)
It isnt that bad.
great show as always guys <3
hotsauce … lately you been all over bitching about LoW allowances.. you should actually play the game a bit more given how much you seem to care about who can play with what LoW 😉
Lol dude, I have class 40k night, and the group here is super casual to where I cant bring my White Scars Grav Bikes
But , It used to be that everyone thought Knights where OP, now a Knight is just something else. It used to be no helstrom templates at all(The Scythed Hieradule was banned for a bit)
it used to be FW list where not allowed, nor formations.
You keep saying we have to draw the line somewhere, but the line has changed so many times, why not allow more in?
FW lists were prohibited for complexity reasons, not because they were powerful. Almost all of them are inferior to the “basic” version of the army they represent.
Lots of people thought Knights were overpowered… until they played against them and realized that being as tough as two Predators wasn’t actually all that scary.
Formations were allowed pretty much right from the start, albeit with the “takes your ally slot” caveat back in 6E.
ALL Lords of War started off banned (even after Escalation came out.) The process of admitting them one-by-one is not a fault but the intention of the system- it’s a process of experimenting which ones are problematic and detrimental to the game and which aren’t.
If you’re afraid of change, this might not be the game for you.
um, im advocating for changes
So interceptor shutting down drop pods armies is wrong but drop pods armies wrecking everything else is fine? Sm favoritism ftw
So interceptor shutting down drop pods armies is wrong but drop pods armies wrecking everything else is fine? SM are realistcally the only army that can emply drop pod tactics (together with rh rest of IoM), is it fair that lists like that with grav guns can pretty much shut down MC lists without a reasonable counter (which are particularly important to tau). I agree with you on markerlights but your interceptor argement sounds like SM favoritism again. Frankly started to argue his point. I wish he continued
SM favoritism? Lol, that’s so far off base it’s silly. Just stop to think about what you’re saying for a moment. We stand to gain nothing from doing that and could lose a lot. You’re free to think whatever you want, of course, but we’d have to be fools to try and play favorites in this business. My point was not just drop pods, but any reserve army. 5pt interceptor is really under priced and over powered, it just is. It imbalances the game. And, if Grav really bother you, everyone has access to VSGs, which totally shut them down. There’s better ways to balance the game than introducing things that take away entire list building strategies. It takes variety away from the game.