Show Notes
9-30-14
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- HiTech minis releases Consul Titus.
- Prodos shows off the new Free Marines and they are looking slick!
- Antenocities Workshop releases some awesome new Infinity Terrain.
- Wrath of Kings releases a very cool new model.
- Infinity Shows off their September Releases.
Upcoming ITC Events
- Brawl in the Fall this weekend!
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Rumors: The Rumor Section is gathered from the web and is not in any way information we receive from any manufacturer nor is it necessarily accurate. This section of the podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only.
- Vect not in the book? No LoW?
- Wyches still apparently only get their 4++ in combat…and not vs. Overwatch?
- Lots of changes to DE weapons, Wych weapons change, Stun claw is a challenge weapon, Huskblades AP3, WWP not apparently allows deepstrike without scattering for the bearer and their unit, Haemonculous and Archon both apparently increase PfP and stack with one another.
- Supposedly you can take Cronos and Talos in units of 3? The Cronos apparently buffs other units around it with things like +1 FnP, etc.
- Flickerfields only on Venomes?
- Night Shields now grant stealth?
- A Homunculous Coven supplement rumored to be coming out, soon.
- DE Detachment: 1 HQ, 2 Troops, 1-6 Fast Attack, 5+ cover on turn 1, 6+ for non-troops
- Razorwing is FA.
- Mandrakes lose 5++ but get Stealth and Shrouding and start with Baleblast which is now Soul Blaze.
- One Relic grants 12″ have Adamantium Will, all psykers Perils on any doubles.
- Reavers now get Rending HoW, Caltrops greant D6 st6, Grav is concussive.
- FW is showing off their new Chaos IA Book!
- Rumors of new 7th ed rules updates for much of the FW stuff.
Rant Session
- GW and getting rid of named characters or units without a model.
Tactics Corner
- Imperial Players should take a look at the Mortis Dread.
Rules Lawyer
List Review
Would love to have you thoughts on this list I’ve been toying with :
Champions of Fenris Detachment:
HQ
Wolf Guard Battle Leader ( runic armour, storm shield, Thunderwolf, Krakkenbone Sword, Fellclaws teeth)
Rune Priest (ml2, Space Marine bike, runic axe)
Rune Priest (ml2, jump pack, runic stave)
ELITES
Iron Priest (Thunderwolf, x2 Cyberwolves)
Iron Priest (Thunderwolf, x2 Cyberwolves)
FAST ATTACK
X6 Thunderwolves (x6 stormshields, x2 powerfists, x1 frost axe)
HEAVY SUPPORT
X6 Long fangs (x5 missile launchers)
ALLIES: White Scars
HQ
Kor’sarro Khan (Moondrakken)
ELITES
X5 Legion of the Damned (meltagun, multimelta, combi-melta)
TROOPS
X5 bikes (x2 grav guns, combi-grav)
X5 bikes (x2 grav guns, combi-grav)
The idea is that the wolf guard battle leader, rune priests and the khan join the big blob of thunderwolves. The rune priests roll on biomancy (hoping for endurance to make them all eternal warrior, 4+ feel no pain), and /or sancturary from sanctic to give everything with a stormshield a 2++.
As wolfguardy type models must issue challenges, I’ve kitted the WGBL out to fill this role and strike with i5 Ap2. If in a challenge, getting the benefits of his preferred enemy, if not he has Fellclaws teeth to ensure the ap2 hits are stacking up. The khan providing hit and run for the unit plus his usual nastiness.
The two iron priests join a bike squad each – tanking on their 2+, or using lookout sir and jinking for a 3+ White scar jink save to take the wounds. This gives very mobile grav weapons along with 6 S5 hammer of wraiths and some S10 combat nastyness with hit and run. Focused on MC MEQ & TEQ hunting.
The long fangs sit at the back and provide some ranged support while the legion of the damned deepstrike in and throw melta down on mech
Any Thoughts or recommendations for my list?
Also couple of rules lawyer questions for you from champions of fenris suppliment:
1. If a Wolfguard leader in combat gains preferred enemy when in challenge, does this confer to the squad while he has it?
2. Is the armour of Asvald stormwrack actually terminator armour or does it just confer the rules? I.e. It says the wearer gains a 2+/4++ IWND, with bulky, relentless, deepstrike and cannot make a sweeping advance but nowhere does it state that rule wise it is termy armour? Do you think this could be taken on a Thunderwolf?
Cheers
E
LOL on the Webway portal thing. That being said, I am thinking of a ten man grotesque squad with that and some spiritseers and an archon/succ. Be funny at the very least.
That would actually be really good!
I’m liking wwp for a unit of dscythe wraithguard. The 12″ perils in any double is what SitW should become
Holy shit, I didn’t even consider that….wow!
Had the list rolling around in my head for a couple days. Gonna test it out when the new books hits. Might need a spiritseer and Iyanden powers to make it work right, otherwise the way you have to arrange the models as you deploy them could limit how many can shoot. Still, nothing like pinpoint dropping a nuke 🙂
Unfortunately the whole unit needs battle focus and the spirit seer won’t grant it to the archon. That said with standard wraith guard you’ll basically auto kill most super heavies as soon as you come in.
Bah, true. Well, can still get good impact and depending on layout of the opponent could guarantee 3 and maybe 4 D-scythes being able to fire without moving. Looking forward to tryinig it out.
Reece, do you think the contemptor mortis is worth it?
Yeah, it is solid. I would run with twin las on it, personally.
Yea, I like the chance the AP2 has on getting a lucky explodes result as well. I am on the fence about the points for the Cyclone missile add-on though. Four Str 8 or higher interceptor shots is tempting, but it does push the points cost close to Landraider level.
Agreed, the Contemptor balloons in price so fast.
Venoms in FA combined with the rumored 6 FA detachment should make for some interesting takes on the old venom spam lists.
Yeah, I think DE are changing a lot, but they will still be good.
My god. SO FREAKING EXCITED for the new chaos book.
I have a better suggestion for GW: Do what FW have done, and release sketches. So put the rules in, but get some artwork in there from the artists, of what the model will eventually look like.
I am pumped, too! Basically, Chaos IG, so awesome! This helps Chaos immensely.
So, how will the rummored Chaos IG fit in with BAO/LVO list building? I thought Forgeworld units were in but Forgeworld army lists were out – or are the rumored chaos IG units for a CSM detachment?
We will be using any FW army lists that are updated for 7th ed.
Ohhhhh, awesome.
Cheers for the list review guys. Will try to squeeze in some AA. Did have the stormfang but means if have to drop the long fangs and legion…. I’ll work something out!
What did you think to the armour of asvald stormwrack query?
Sorry for forgetting to address the questions. But yes, it appears it is not actually termie armor, just acts like it in some ways.
Hey fellas. So. It turns out that I am going to be in Vegas the weekend of the LVO. Unfortunately I wont be abl to play the tournament. Is there going to be a day pass or anything I can buy to swing by for a while and check things out??
Yeah, come on by and say hi! You just have to grab a con badge.
@Reecius @white925 – Pretty sure I worked out why Vect isn’t in the codex. Some time around the end of 5th edition, he broke into the Grey Knights codex, stole all the psybolts, and used those to hijack the Chaos Space Marine’s mojo.
Matt Ward hasn’t really resigned from GW, he’s gone deep under cover to try and bring back the psybolts.