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This comes to us via Faeit212 (he’s been knocking it out with the rumors lately!)
There is one question that has been in the comment sections of every post yesterday, and that is “What about the rest of September, is the Chaos Marine codex still rumored to be coming out?”
Well to answer that, I did discuss this directly with a couple different sources, and received some replies. So while trying to create a little suspense this morning without caffeine can be a little dangerous, you will have to read below to see what the answers were.
I think by now most of everyone is drooling over the starter set models. If you are not, that is OK, I’m sure there is some medical reason and you have a Doctor’s note to explain it.
First off, the picture above is said to be the last page of the September White Dwarf. So there is nothing really there to say “Chaos Space Marines Codex”. Although the Battle Rages On! could mean a big release still right ahead of us
A couple days ago we had a rumor from via Ravengardt here on Faeit 212. There was some a typo saying 08.08 for a chaos space marine codex release. The day he meant was September 8th. (see how I avoided all the we say dates this way stuff). So to make it short he did contact me and is his response.
via Ravengardt here on Faeit 212
Hey Natfka,
yes sorry I meant 08.09. for CSM. But I still meant release, not
announcement. I asked him when he told me about the 8th, because I
thought it’s too close the starter box and he replied 8th is release.
Maybe they’re in the White Dwarf anyway or GW starts to announce things
one week before release. Or he got something wrong.
Now lets get down to some red meat (sorry vegetarians, I like that phrase and red meat), I did ask one of our more regular sources to see where the codex release still stands. This is mostly because I do not want to bring forth this unbridled excitement and have any let downs. Right now the hype is so high with the starter set, I can feel it from the masses around the world.
The same source last Sunday declared the following and has said in the past that as it stands CSM and Dark Angels are planned releases before years end.
The 25th is the white dwarf which is all about the new starter and chaos space marines.
Pre-Orders for the new starter set begin on the 25th, for release on the 1st.
Pre-Order for Chaos Space Marines go up on the 8th and the entirety of their range will be released in two waves on the 15th and the 29th
I find this source very credible, here is the response.
As for chaos not being in September: who told me September is incredibly reliable. Not as a rumor source, but as someone involved in . I can’t imagine him being wrong, unless he was intentionally messing with me (but he was right about the starter … so… Stealth release?)
Unfortunately, the October white dwarf articles are all about chaos, so it looks like we’ll see them next month, unfortunately.
It wouldn’t be uncommon though to release articles about the product after it’s released though, we’ve see a lot of “follow up” stuff happen in the past.
So does this mean that we are going to see a stealth release? Or is October when its expected? Personally I still think we are looking at September 8th for pre-orders, because I know whats under those blacked out sections and because Ravengardt gives similar dates. However I am not a rumor source, so I can only go on what I am given or find.
That basically means, I am working with the information that I have, but this one is very tightly under wraps. I think I have the right combination to this safe, but do I have the right safe?
Sorry for detailing it out the way did, but I felt it important to not just drop the information I have without going into some of these details. If I get more on this…. I will get it out to the readers here.
This video from GW indicates we’ll have the Starter Set officially up for pre-order near the end of the month!
This comes to us via Faeit212
The question of this new model from the starter set is finally answered. Its a walker with options for a butcher-cannon or twin reaper auto cannons….. wow. Thats a lot of firepower. Lets take a closer look!
The source for this sent in a correction on the stats. Basically oops sorry it is 12/12/10. I have corrected it below.
via Faeit 212 (a Must Remain Anonymous Source)
There’s a rumor floating around that the hellbrute strikes at initiative 1.
I just want to clarify that while it is listed as having a Power Fist and not a Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, because it is a Walker it does not suffer from the Unwieldy special rule, that’s why it’s simplified in the codex entry.
120 points
It’s 12/12/10
Str 6, ws 4, bs4, i4
Multi-Melta / Power Fist (with inbuilt combi-bolter)
can swap the Multi-Melta for a butcher-cannon, or twin reaper auto cannons (which is pretty cool, since that’s an entire riflemen in one arm, but with less range), twin-linked lascannon or a twin-linked heavy flamer.
can swap combi-bolter for a meltagun or heavy flamer
Has rampage
Mark of Khorne: Rage USR
Mark of Nurgle: 5+ restore a hull point OR repair immobilized / weapon destroyed at the start of a turn. Does not let it get back up after having been killed unlike Unholy Vigor.
Mark of Slaanesh: Sonic scream, gives it offensive/defensive grenades
Mark of Tzeench: flame weapons (if it has any) are +1 strength and -1 AP (heavy flamers are AP3… whaaaat)
And fluff:
Now we have the fluff and background of this new unit. I have taken the background, the information from earlier, and the latest additional bits and put them all in one location. So have fun…. Your going to enjoy this one.
via Faeit 212 (a Must Remain Anonymous Source)
Hellbrute (background/fluff) paraphrased
They were mighty and honorable warriors interred in the powerful and venerable dreadnought chasis during their former slavery to the Imperium. A side effect of insanity was a known feature of Dreadnoughts. To counter this, standard operating procedures on Dreadnoughts is to keep them in stasis between service, so that they see life as one constant battle, only awake in times of great need and focus, but Hell brutes get no such reprieve.
Without the cold embrace of nothingness that makes the years and decades between war pass in the blink of an eye, they are driven mad. The rage of a mind essentially trapped within his walking sarcophagus, simultaneously his freedom and prison tears at the very fabric of his sanity and it is expressed through monstrous transformation and mutation.
Some believe that when enough service has been rendered and enough blood has been shed and victories won in the name of the Dark Gods, these once mighty warriors will be elevated to Greater Daemons and once again walk the earth of dead worlds with their own two feet.
Earlier Information
I just want to clarify that while it is listed as having a Power Fist and not a Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, because it is a Walker it does not suffer from the Unwieldy special rule, that’s why it’s simplified in the codex entry.
120 points
It’s 12/12/10
Str 6, ws 4, bs4, i4
Multi-Melta / Power Fist (with inbuilt combi-bolter)
can swap the Multi-Melta for a butcher-cannon, or twin reaper auto cannons (which is pretty cool, since that’s an entire riflemen in one arm, but with less range), twin-linked lascannon or a twin-linked heavy flamer.
can swap combi-bolter for a meltagun or heavy flamer
Has rampage
Mark of Khorne: Rage USR
Mark of Nurgle: 5+ restore a hull point OR repair immobilized / weapon destroyed at the start of a turn. Does not let it get back up after having been killed unlike Unholy Vigor.
Mark of Slaanesh: Sonic scream, gives it offensive/defensive grenades
Mark of Tzeench: flame weapons (if it has any) are +1 strength and -1 AP (heavy flamers are AP3… whaaaat)
New Information
Some stuff I left out (it was late, I was tired)
You can change the shooty arm for a Power Fist. The power fist doesn’t have an inbuilt weapon though so you can’t get another flamer or meltagun on it. This upgrade is free.
The autocannon is low points cost, the butcher cannon is moderate, the lascannon is expensive and the twin-flamer is free.
It’s also still crazed, but crazed works differently now.
If you get fire frenzy, you double shot at the closest enemy target, not closest target. Only if there are no enemies in range do you shoot a friendly target (twice). If nothing is STILL in range, you treat it as blood rage instead. (so upgrade your stuff to flamers and give it another power fist if you always want it ANGRY)
Blood Rage makes the Hellbrute have to move towards the closest target. Rolls 2d6 to run (pick the highest) and can charge, and must charge, the closest target within 12″. (rolled as normal). If immobilized, you treat as a Fire Frenzy.
Dark Apostles make Blood Rage results more likely to happen if they are nearby (but you risk the albeit now unlikely fire frenzy to the face).
They’re not infected with the same virus as Obliterators.
It’s not a daemon, and does not have the daemon USR
The fluff entry also mentions that some Hell Brutes are not as mutated as others, and more closely resemble their dreadnought kin, but to make no mistake they are just as insane.
(So you can still use your old models if you have them. The hellbrute is just the evolution of the whole “style” for the new CSM, which is a lot less “space marine with spikes” and a lot more something unique).
Awesome! Now I need to either get my paycheck within the week or borrow from my family to make sure to get this day 1, to possibly get the limited edition Interrogator Chaplain… because he looks AWESOME. 🙂
Yeah he does! Super boss!
Do you have a price on this yet?
No, as we say in the article, as soon as we do know, we’ll put that info out. I think we’ll know in a week.
I don’t understand why GW thinks these cryptic youtube videos are the way to build interest for their products. GW communicates like a 15 year old girl, just tell us what you are doing and stop the games (well not the fun ones anyway).
We’ll have to wait to see the entire codex entry and all the rules that come with this particular unit, but honestly it just sounds like chaos gets screwed again. It’s a wonderful looking model, and sounds awesome if you look at it in a vacuum, but if you compare it to other dreadnoughts then it’s just a dreadnought that costs 20% more than other armies. Or it’s about 5 points cheaper than a DC dread or Furioso, both of which seem like better options at first glance.
I’m not sure, we’ll have to see.
Yeah, you may be right, but I think you have to factor in the craziness which can now be quite useful. We’ll see of course, but I am liking it so far. I am stoked for this book, can;t wait to see it!
Yes, I do agree with you there.
But ultimately, any time a unit is random in some way it should cost less IMO and not more. After all, every time something random happens you lose control of that unit. You have less reliability and less dependability on how that unit will perform.
But I do agree that the last two weeks of rumors are the first time I’ve finally started to get excited for this book. Up until now, it has sounded very “Meh!” to me.
I agree. I think if you can learn to direct the Hellbrute, then you can get good results out of him. Either put the cannon on him and place him in such a way to get a benefit from going crazy, or gear him for assault and not worry about it so much as he will almost always run towards the enemy.
I agree though that randomness is the bane of competitive play in many cases as it removes predictability, but in this case I think it may be more manageable.
Hey Reece, Faeit 212 found the pricing and how the Limited Edition will work, take a look!
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/08/dark-vengeance-pricing-and-release.html